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How about when test kits are available and the number of confirmed cases explodes...thereby drastically reducing that mortality rate down to normal seasonal flu numbers...will anyone come back to say "well, I guess we overreacted a bit"?
You are more likely to be stuck in a hospital bed from a car accident every single day than you are catching a serious case of Coronavirus. There is a risk/reward decision everyone has to make every morning. Looking at the data and taking all things into consideration, Coronavirus is pretty far down on the risk chart for me. If I was 80 years old with some immunodeficiency issues, I'd probably be staying inside and avoiding people as much as possible. My dad is a retired medical doctor and a public health specialist...he's 77 years old. He's not all that concerned. Normal seasonal flu precautions...just like all the experts have been saying.
This! Holy crap I touch my face a lot. I guess I picked the wrong time to try to grow a beard.
I am aware of your stance on this; you aren't likely to be directly affected, so you don't care.
The thing is, if there are thousands of people in our limited ICU beds across the country, what happens when I do get in a horrible car accident? Who treats me? Where do I go?
Sounds like you need to self-quarantine yourself until this all blows over. Seriously, why risk going outside at all if you are truly that concerned?
An extra 12,000 to 61,000 deaths and 140,000 to 810,000 hospitalizations seems pretty bad.
Stop fanning the flames of hysteria. Everybody knows that "Dr. James Lawler, who researches emerging diseases at the University of Nebraska Medical Center and the Global Center for Health Security" is complicit in this quest to enact total government control over our population.
This is just the media showing they still have all the power
That article literally says these predictions of disaster are based on unlikely worst-case scenarios of everyone getting sick all at once. Stop spreading BS. This is what we have been talking about this whole thread. Media sources spreading fear based on unlikely scenarios.
Truly don't know where you're getting that from. But I will tell you this: your crusade to proudly go about the world with no fear of the coronavirus does not make you righteous. It does not make you superior.
I'm not scared for my own health. I'm not scared for my wife's health. But there are a number of older folks, smokers, and overweight people in my office. My 67 year old grandmother is at Disney World today, which might be one of the worst places in America you could be right now. She spends a lot of time with her 91-year-old mother.
My family isn't taking this seriously because of a mindset just like yours, that this whole thing is an overreaction. That's dangerous, and cannot go unchecked just because you think you know better and have all the answers, despite the scientific community pleading with you to think otherwise.
Everyone please do their humble best keeping civil going forward. Any extreme name-calling will result in a two week vacation from the board. Thanks all
now go wash your hands
"A USA TODAY analysis shows that if the nation sees a major spike, there could be almost six seriously ill patients for every existing hospital bed.
That analysis, based on data from the American Hospital Association, U.S. Census, CDC and World Health Organization, is conservative. For example, it assumes all 790,000 beds will be empty.
Since two thirds are not, the reality could be far worse: about 17 people competing for each open bed."
"USA TODAY’s analysis estimates 23.8 million Americans could contract COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus that first appeared in Wuhan, China. That number is based on an infection rate of 7.4% – similar to a mild flu year.
Experts say this infection rate is likely to be far higher."
The article clearly states these are conservative estimates. No mention of worst case predictions
Seriously, you're absolutely convinced that The Media is hell-bent on spreading misinformation? What about doctors, nurses, hospital workers in Italy who are getting sick tending to their patients? Are they part of this too?
They're choosing who to give treatment to in Italy, because they can't help everybody. Three weeks ago, there were a couple of cases and the country was operating as normal. Why are you so convinced that we're invulnerable to that exact situation? It happened in China, and now in Italy, and cases are only rising in the UK and Germany, so why would Americans be invulnerable?
Nobody has said you should pack up and move to your bomb shelter. But your cavalier attitude about people getting sick and dying and the possibility that this could get really bad stateside is costing me precious work hours right now.
Like I said, if I was in a danger category I'd be doing things differently. Maybe your elderly mom shouldn't have gone to Disney in the middle of all this. Maybe your elder co-workers need to make adjustments. People need to make individual decisions for themselves. We can't have an entire country paralyzed in fear.
Yeah, no **** they shouldn't be there right now. But they listen to media sites who are telling them that all is well, and they're at little risk of infection. Quick aside - as much as you've ragged on The Media for spreading hysteria, FoxNews anchors and pundits are pushing an opposite narrative. You just happen to agree with one opinion and not the other.
You'll notice that the entire country is not paralyzed in fear; we're just adjusting to a real threat. Shutting down sporting events was an easy call. Moving people to work remote is a good decision. It's the best way to temporarily slow this thing down, to buy us some time.
I don't understand why some people spin it as the government attempting to control our lives. To what purpose? What would be the point of that, just to prove that they can?
The reason this disease is so bad is because people like you and me often have either no symptoms or mild symptoms while other people can't breathe without assistance or die at a pretty high rate. Those people don't get others sick because we know to isolate them and they can't go anywhere. WE are the ones spreading the disease cause we can still go out in public. That's why we everyone is having to change they way they live for the moment.
"Such worst-case scenarios underscore the complex decisions that could face our health care system in the weeks and months ahead."
"Those figures assume the infections would happen all at once, which is unlikely, and that all beds are empty, when they are not."
The entire article is based on what "could" and "might" happen is a worst case scenario.
"A USA TODAY analysis shows that if the nation sees a major spike, there could be almost six seriously ill patients for every existing hospital bed."
"USA TODAY’s analysis estimates 23.8 million Americans could contract COVID-19"
Better to just report on things happening at the present time, and offer no possible future scenarios.
*hurricane barreling towards the coast of Florida*
Media headline: "Category-5 Superstorm not Currently Wreaking Havoc, so We Should be Fine"