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Adam Sasser suing UGA

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  • TMazz2009TMazz2009 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This I agree with....butttt UGA has REPEATEDLY protected a certain GA for lecturing some strong words...even as far as the killing of whites. His case will use this as a double standard.

    Btw....I think both should have been long gone. I do not see how either deserves the privilege to be at the school.

    And yes UGA will give him a settlement. For one it is cheaper. And secondly, they are wanting this to go away quickly. Drawing attention to either Sasser or the professor will be huge press all over again.

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,762 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 2020

    Very high bar to keep such testimony out. Cannot see that happening. The question is not just whether UGA acted properly but whether they acted fairly. At least that is how the plaintiff's attorney will try to frame the issue to the jury.

  • ghostofuga1ghostofuga1 Posts: 9,154 mod

    How many commenting here have law degrees? Just wondering...

  • Cid23341Cid23341 Posts: 56 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I liken it to burning an American Flag, in most places it's socially unacceptable and in a lot of place would cause an argument or psychical altercation but it's protected under the 1st amendment. If a student was burning a flag in protest on campus, would they be expelled? No one is going to ague that what Sasser did was acceptable, they will argue that he was not fairly punished and the fall out cost him millions. If Sasser was not a baseball player and was not recognized, would he have been expelled? Would this have been publicized ?

    UGA did the right thing regardless of the outcome but I don't think this ever get's to a court room. I don't think either side want the negative fall out that could come with the publicity.

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,762 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    As offensive as I find the GA's comments, he enjoys even greater protection because it is deemed political speech.

  • LBCoachLBCoach Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yep, viewpoint discrimination is not tolerated. If offensive language is used while conveying some sort of belief it is generally protected especially if it is political in nature. Shouting "put the N-word in" doesn't really fit that description.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I said UGA acted above board during this situation, so I'm not sure why you felt you needed to say this. UGA cannot punish someone for their speech if it falls under protected speech which generally includes hate speech. However, I don't think Sasser's conduct falls under protected speech for the reasons you mentioned.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't think the GA was advocating for the killing of white people. I think it was something like he didn't believe POC would ever achieve equal status without violence that caused some white people to die. You'd have to prove his words were a call to action meant to incite violence rather than an observation.

  • bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is not the time in the USA to fight that battle in court.... he would lose.... badly.

  • roydawgroydawg Posts: 580 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well if the consequences are from the government, which a public university is, then the first amendment does protect you from the consequences. You can say whatever you want in Cuba or Venezuela, but the government will bring some serious consequences if they don’t like it. The freedom from (government) consequences is exactly what the first amendment protects. I think the best line of defense here is that this type of speech amounts to fighting words and isn’t protected at all.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here's my thought, and it is really free from law and government and rights and such...

    Life usually fixes this stuff, even if the law does not.

    If he was stup.id enough to scream this at a football game, then life will find a way to correct his stupi.dity eventually. Somebody is gonna punch him in the mouth and break his jaw. He is going to say something that gets him fired. His lack of judgement is going to hurt his personal relationships.

    You can sue and get paid. You can use the courts for a temporary advantage over an adversary. But you can't get away from stupi.d. If you don't mature, it stays with you and eventually rears it's ugl.y head at an inopportune time. You may have cash, but you are drinking from a straw, unemployed, and alone.

    I have seen this OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. It seems to REALLY show up around athletics...

    My hope is that - somehow - he matures out of this state of stu.pidity. Doesn't look like he has yet, if you look at the lawsuit. The first step to leaving it behind is to admit you have a problem...

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