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Georgia injury update: JT Daniels’ ‘pitch count’ up, George Pickens improving, key defender returns

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  • ShoottheHoochShoottheHooch Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If JT is only at 40 to 45 yards, that doesn’t equate to anything close to 100% if he is an NFL talent. Stets dropped a 60 yard TD on a dime to McKonkey against Arky that traveled 54 yards in the air.

    JT declaring for the draft after this year would be as ill advised as when Fromm declared EXCEPT for this being such a weak class for QBs. Beck would be the odd man out should JT declare. I would take that trade anytime!

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Make no mistake. UGA has proven that they don't need JTD (many are saying SBIV is your starter going forward anyway) or GPickens to win any of the remaining scheduled games IF they suffer NO MORE significant injuries. FU will put up a fight for a half and then get buried. So there is no reason to rush the healing and conditioning process on Pickens. He is 7 months removed from reconstructive knee surgery! I can tell you from personal experience he should have and UGA will give him (a minimum of) 9 months (Dec 4th). Practice reps are just as valuable as game reps for a WR with less a risk for injury. I do not see Pickens coming back next year. Hence his desire/urgency to come back this year. Draft buzz is still 1st/2nd rd for Pickens even w/o playing with the tape he already has. Especially w/a strong combine.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    With no game this week, overthrowing by JTD early this week is nonsensical. Maybe he is ready but you know a young competitive player is going to push it. JTD and SBIV coming back for another season is problematic. Dabo moved Sunshine into the starting line up probably before he was ready and kept him. CKS didn't move JFields into the starting line up before he was ready and lost him. For the long term (3 yrs), Dabo made the better decision. JTD's playing out the schedule probably gets him drafted in the 1st 3 rds IF he improves on his tape from last season. JTD seems very similar to Mac Jones as a player. Jones, w/a NC resume and throwing to 1st rd wrs, went 15th(?) in the 1st rd. With the QB room and blow out wins, UGA SHOULD be playing 2 QBs. Keep 2 guys happy and developing.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Really? Have you not seen the injury list? One thing I really like about CKS and UGA is that they can look every parent in the eye and tell them that their son will not be cleared to play until they are 100% ready and prepared. UGA puts student athletes well being above winning football games.

  • SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The QB room will be something to watch, with Daniels and Bennett both having another year of eligibility.

    I remembered this from another DawgNation article about Stockton.

    Does he plan to stick around for the long haul and compete at UGA? Is he really the anti-transfer portal QB?

    “Georgia is where I am going and where I will graduate,” Stockton said on Saturday.


    The Transfer Portal will transform many teams QB rooms. Everything has changed. What happens the next time Ohio St, Alabama, Clemson - finds themselves in the same situation as Ohio St. was when they found themselves with no Blue-chip QB on the roster? Come (play - Start) for us. We already have a Million dollar NIL deal set up. All you have to do is enter the transfer portal, and sign our NIL. You'll be an instant Millionaire and our starting QB.

  • ShoottheHoochShoottheHooch Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    There’s a very good chance Fromm declared early, the decision that really put the UGA QB room behind the eight ball, because of the way Kirby doled out entitlement snaps to One Look Tuck and Run Fields for entire series in an effort to appease a player that deserved no more playing time than mop up duty.

    What exactly have you seen from JT that suggests he is a second or third round pick? The best QBs in this draft don’t deserve to go that high. I’m glad JT is a Dawg, but honestly, I saw much more from Fromm than what I have seen from JT and Jake was much more durable.

  • SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Those questioning Daniels pitch count seem to be missing a few facts.

    University of Georgia Senior Associate Athletic Director Ron Courson, is the best in the business.

    Prior to joining the UGA staff in 1995, Courson served as Director of Rehabilitation at the University of Alabama from 1991-1995 and Director of Rehabilitation with Samford University from 1989-1991. He received his undergraduate degree in education/physical education from Samford University, performed two years of graduate work at the University of Tennessee-Chattanooga, and graduated with honors from the Medical College of Georgia with a degree in physical therapy. Courson is a national registered advanced emergency medical technician as well as a certified strength and conditioning specialist by the National Strength and Conditioning Association.

    During his career in sports medicine, Courson has also been involved in many athletic training activities including work as an athletic trainer with the U.S. Olympic Team at the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul, South Korea; 1990 Goodwill Games; 1987 World University Games, 1987 Pan American Games and the 1992 Olympic Games in Barcelona, Spain. He served as the chief athletic trainer for the 1996 U.S. Olympic Track and Field Trials as well as the chief athletic trainer for track and field for the Atlanta Committee for the 1996 Olympic Games (ACOG).

    Courson is active in his profession, having served as the president of the SEC Sports Medicine Committee, chairman of the College and University Athletic Trainers' Committee of the National Athletic Trainers' Association and as a member of the NCAA Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports committee. He is a past medical liaison to the American Football Coaches Association and serves currently on the NFL Health and Safety Committee and the USA Football Medical Advisory Board.

    If Ron Courson says "use this pitch count" Everybody should listen, and not question his advice.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 2021

    ShoottheHooch Fromm left early because either1) he got bad advice that told him he was ranked higher than he was or 2) He pulled the ripcord before his QB stock freefell any more. Fields getting snaps had nothing to do w/Fromm leaving early. Fields entered the TP BEFORE the bowl game after Fromm's 2nd year. Fromm knew Fields was leaving a year BEFORE he decided to go pro. Comparing Fromm to Fields as either a college or pro QB is ridiculous. You do realize that "Tuck and Run" Fields' comp% and QB rating as a freshman at UGA were higher than any of Fromm's 3 years, right? The stat's and draft positions speak for themselves. JTD has more size and arm than Fromm. Those things are important at the next level and why SBIV won't be drafted. What I see in JTD is the same things I see in Mac Jones. Prepared, cerebral, live arm, good game manager.

  • SpdawgSpdawg Posts: 378 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    The comments on JTD’s ability when healthy may be true, but his lack of on field playing time will force NFL teams to shy away from drafting him. The cold facts are, he has played in only a handful of games since the fall of 2019. And most of those were against lesser competition. As things stand right now, he is a late round pick or FA. If he comes back for his senior season, it will make a crowded QB room even more crowded.

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If JT decides to leave for the NFL it would boil down to the combine. No one that I know of thought Jake would barely make it into the draft, but his combine exposed his lack of pure arm strength, Highly valued at the next level. If JT has a good showing in the combine he will be at least in the second round. There is just such a demand for QB's.

    If he doesn't he could be like Jake

    In watching most of his highlights from HS JT likes to put a lot of air under his throws especially on the deeper throws and he usually put it where only his guy has a shot at it. But when he needs to gun it, his arm looks more than adequate.

    Brock needs to take a page out of JT's playbook and learn finesse.

  • EricDawgs1EricDawgs1 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    It's crazy with nit only how many guys are out but if they were on another tram playing that's a top 10 team. Just shows how much depth UGA has these days and great coaching

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Reddawg anyone who thought Jake Fromm had the arm to excel (play?) in the NFL was looking through rose colored glasses. Fromm's 3rd year at GA was not good. All his numbers were down. Worse, he failed the eye test. JTD has already shown he has an NFL arm. While he is not a "can't miss" guy he has grown tremendously as a QB since HS. What Brock needs to take from JTD is being a student of the game. Fromm was well studied but JTD takes it to another level. We will see if JTD's homework translates to performance on the field. He would appear to be one of the best prepared QB's at the college level. A very stark contrast to "The QB Whisperer" QB play at FU.

  • ShoottheHoochShoottheHooch Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What are ridiculous are your claims! Not one time during Field’s time at UGA did he exhibit anything other than pure freshman skills. He earned nothing but mop up time and play in blowouts against weak competition. He was GIVEN entitlement snaps for entire series that did nothing for the offense!

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