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A lot of good points, 3184. I long to go back to the way things used to be in a lot of areas because what we have now is a lot worse. However, this cat was let out of the bag a long time ago when they decided to make CFB a multibillion dollar business. It wasn't the players who made those decisions. Contracts were negotiated with networks, tickets were jacked at stadiums, merchandising companies were formed and deals were struck to sell everything marketable from the game, including NIL for players. Etc. & Etc.
What the ruling tells us is that the players are key producers in the business and they can't be denied compensation. As I pointed out last year, this has a lot of potential to be abused and it may become an arms race. UGA had better hire some really good legal consultants because other teams will exploit this. It's a market. It's competition. It's American capitalism. The strong and the smart will win. The genie isn't going back in the bottle imo.
The players can money from anybody that wants to pay them. It is a legal matter. The presidents and nobody else can stop that.
Great argument. I see the control in the hands of the conferences. They made the mandates for a pandemic year.
Sorry for the coming rant!
I don’t think I have argued that players don’t produce and should not be fairly compensated. Or that their scholarship is payment enough. I think the Supreme Court ruling ALLOWS them to be compensated and I understand that. I have no problem with JD being paid by a law firm for his image and likeness being used on a billboard that says “Size Matters”; I have no problem with JTD being paid by a restaurant in a commercial for his NIL to hawk the food produced by the restaurant.
My problem is not that they are being or should be compensated but HOW they might be compensated, by WHAT METHOD they might be compensated and FOR WHAT purpose the compensation is made?
Boosters pooling money to pay players $50,000 each to come play for their school is not compensation based on the name, image or likeness of the player involved. These schools are not denying compensation to players based on their NIL, the group of boosters are paying players in spite of, and with no reference to, their NIL. And this method of payment could be the start of something ****.
Several states have passes laws governing NIL compensation but I bet ALL are couched in terms of allowing players to be paid for, and not be denied payment for, the use of their name, image or likeness in the production of a product that makes money for the school involved. I would wager that there is no reference in any of these laws which state that players are employees of the school and should be compensated as such, which is what “booster pooling “ is—-pay to play.
My feelings are- Where does this end? Is it the purpose of NIL legislation to create a minor league system for the NFL? Will other “larger organizations “ than boosters become involved in the payment of players which might or could affect the outcome of games played? Is that what the Supreme Court decision envisioned?
It has been argued by some in this forum that the players can take money from anybody that wants to pay them, that it is a legal matter and that the University Presidents have no power to stop that. If that is so , then why do the Universities need “legal compliance” staff? To make sure that exactly “What” is being complied with and exactly “What” needs to be enforced? If the”genie is out of the bottle “, then who cares anymore? Pay them direct and be done with it! Then we will have a “market system” where the one’s that can pay will weed out those that can’t and we can all watch only 16-24 teams compete every year.
If the Presidents can’t oversee and fix what may happen, then maybe the Conference Commissioners can. The NCAA has backed out for sure. Maybe it is time for the federal government to step in with regulations that will unify, and give direction to, the NIL compensation matter.
I really don’t have all the final answers but I can see the crumbling of the game that I enjoy for the same reasons that I don’t watch pro football anymore and it saddens and concerns me deeply.
I am off my soapbox now!
Go Dawgs! Hate on Michigan!
Best post yet on this topic. Couldn’t agree more
They need to start a g league and see how well that does. A few are making it off their perceived high school ranking which is debatable but most are making it because they play at a big time program. The players get plenty already and I’m all for their being some additional compensation that is equal across the board. However keep in mind only the top programs can afford any of that. but this will get out of hand and be abused. Start a g league and this will end it. Just look at basketball. Does any one watch the g league? Nope does anyone watch Jackson st.? Nope. I did yesterday and that was worse than high school football. Travis will have buyers remorse soon. Can’t imagine him choosing to miss big time Saturday games for that when he could’ve gotten a similar type deal somewhere else. It was a publicity stunt for prime time and all you have to do is look at his coaching outfit yesterday to see it. Travis’s high school might come close to beating Jackson state. He got bad advice and that’s where this will lead. No way he’s there in 2-3 years. He better save that 1.5mm but I’m sure he will get bad advise on that too
Good post and right on. Texas am would’ve never landed that class with out buying a lot of those recruits.
Agreed! That is all I am saying.
I wonder how all the boosters who are doling out millions of dollars for recruits are going to react when their teams continue to go 8-4 every year. (Looking at you, Jimbo) Not a very good return on investment.
Well said!
I had on-campus job in college and I can guarentee the football and basketball players generated more revenue than I did.
I got paid more though
I also had scholarships that covered tuition and other costs. Didn't pay much out of pocket or have tons of loans
Was that at Yale ? I always thought the Ivies didn't give athletic scholarships. How do they get around that ? I know they are endowed and must have some scholarship help of some kind available to athletes.
I went to UGA for my bachelor's degree and Yale for my PhD
The Ivies don't give "athletic" scholarships but they definitely give preference to recruited athletes for admission and have pretty decent financial aid. @texdawg is likely more familiar with that than me
What kind of scholarships did you get? Academic? Most of these kids wouldn’t make it in these schools if not for football and the lax requirements for football players
Oh yeah I know. I'm totally fine with letting exceptional athletes into college for sport. Fixing k-12 education is a different, complicated issue entirely. I also think public universities should be affordable for everyone, so you don't have to come from wealthy family or be good at sports to go to college without insane debt afterwards.