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Georgia football to offer players booster shots before holiday break amid COVID surge

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Loranwhaddayagot

    I always appreciate your comments. JUst not sure where you're getting your info on Natural Immunity. A simple Youtube search will give you gobs of information that's not been tainted by BIg Pharma and Dr. Faucci. Huge study out of Israel stating the efficacy of natural immunity. No one in our Govt wants to even talk about natural immunity. Outside the US it is greatly recognized, but then again so is Ivermectin.

  • LoranwhaddayagotLoranwhaddayagot Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thanks! I enjoy your comments too.

    I was listening to an interview with Dr. Scott Gottlieb...he was Trump's first FDA Chief. He's been right more than anyone throughout the whole COVID ordeal when concerning the vaccines, peaks in infection, etc.

    Even though he's on Pfizer's Board of Directors, his track record for being right has been good for me...he has access to a LOT of data as he is also on Illumina's board (they're a gene sequencing company).

    Of course I'm not a doctor, but what he said about the ASE receptors, etc. completely makes sense. I take an ASE inhibitor for my moderately high blood pressure, and was concerned about the potential for higher risk of COVID.

    Based on what I read, the ASE inhibitor may actually help prevent COVID (that's the theory anyway), and that's similar to what Dr. Scott said about the ASE receptors of natural immunity versus the vaccine.

    I wanted to get Moderna over Pfizer because based on everything I read, it had a higher efficacy. Sure enough, there was a study in Belgium of hospital workers and the Moderna recipients had far more antibodies than the ones who took Pfizer. So the vaccines weren't the same...and Johnson & Johnson's vaccine is a joke.

    Another problem with natural immunity is that the delta variant natural antibodies may not protect against Omicron (they just don't know how long the protection lasts).

    I've looked at some data from Israel, and I've heard Dr. Scott talk about it, but I can't remember what he said when someone asked him about it.

    Like I said, I'm for the vaccine, but I'm NOT for mandates.

  • DeppDoggDeppDogg Posts: 297 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    It's not about one player, obviously, but man... can JT catch a d*mn break? Best wishes to him, George, and all the Dawgs. Positive test doesn't bother me, but "symptomatic" is different, might affect ability to prep, even if throwing on the side. KS was never going to start JT anyway but if things went south, it would have been impossible to ignore (again) the Heisman candidate with the clipboard. That is still an option, I suppose, if JT's cleared to play as of the 31st, but it's not a great situation, to put it mildly. And somehow I feel like this is not the last shoe to fall before the game. Same for UofM. Vaccines don't stop the virus. Masks don't stop the virus (never have). Let's just hope these young men get or stay well and get to play the game they love on the biggest stage in college football.

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  • KudzuKudzu Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Couldn't agree more. A few days ago, I posted a comment on the QB and injuries update article asking if Kirby was on top of the CoVid situation. To the person who marked it "off topic"... I (sadly) stand vindicated 🤣🤣🤣

    No matter how this turns out, this is a great team that has given me the season-of-fun of a lifetime. I wish all of them well, and (of course) am rooting for them to win... but whatever the outcome, I know they're busting hump against a historically unusual set of odds.

    Have a great holiday, all. Go Dawgs!!!

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    serves on the Pfizer board- yikes!!

  • SpdawgSpdawg Posts: 379 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Your pharmacist is mistaken. It does not require a medical degree to review the research. There is a measurable immune response almost immediately after the booster. While it will continue to increase, it does not take the two weeks for effectiveness as the original shot did. But whether it was a day, a week or a month, shouldn’t this have been given to the team already, especially since boosters have been widely available?

  • SpdawgSpdawg Posts: 379 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2021

    Regardless of JT’s diagnosis, etc., doesn’t it now really point to the short-sightedness of CKS to not get meaningful playing time to either Beck of Vandagriff during the multiple blowouts this season? Heading into a game against one of the top teams at sacking QB’s, the game plan will now be even more conservative for fear of a SBIV injury. Much like the game plan was in Fromm’s last season with no qualified backup behind him.

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm surprised that it's taken this long for UGA to be this affected by COVID. I am not surprised at the number of people on this string who so obviously oppose vaccination, nor will I be surprised when several UGA starters and key reserves have to miss the Orange Bowl due to COVID. SEC rules require players to isolate for 10 days from onset of symptoms. Not sure when symptoms began for Daniels and Pickens but that would mean Tuesday would would be the cut-off date to insure a player can play in the Orange Bowl. Surely, there will be players who will start experiencing symptoms today or tomorrow, though. Those guys are toast.

    And I'll bet that somehow, Michigan won't lose any players to COVID, and neither will Bama.

  • stonestone Posts: 399 ✭✭✭ Junior

    It would appear this has turned out to be a wasted year for Daniels. One has to wonder what decisions he faces and what he will decide as it pertains to next year

  • jrmdvm1jrmdvm1 Posts: 137 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited December 2021

    Let me start by saying that I do have medical training. I am a veterinarian ( UGA '76 ), and we are trained in immunology and specifically what is called "herd health", dealing with larger populations of patients. I also promise to do my best not to be political in this.

    First, this is reported as a positive test, not necessarily a positive case of Covid. The media has portrayed positive tests as positive cases, though they are NOT the same thing. There have been false positives ( like Matt Stafford ) and I am sure that there have been false negatives. It is very hard to find data on the efficacy of the tests, specifically sensitivity ( false negatives ) and specificity ( false positives ). You cannot evaluate test results adequately without those numbers, and for some reason, that data is not readily available.

    Secondly, the available vaccines for Covid do NOT prevent you from contracting or spreading the disease, though it is reported that they may "reduce" the severity of the disease. The CDC actually changed their definition of a vaccine to eliminate "immunity" from the definition. It appears this change was to allow the Covid "vaccines" to be covered by the definition. Because they did not make recipients immune to the disease, they technically did not meet the original definition of a vaccine.

    And, Georgia is rapidly being "invaded" by the Omicron variant, which is more virulent ( contagious ), but apparently much milder in symptoms caused ( some have described it as a bad "cold" ). And this variant does not seem to care if you have been vaccinated. I have heard that in some areas 75% of "new" cases in Georgia are Omicron, but have not seen raw data on that, so that number may not be true.

    Mainstream media and social media sites have actively suppressed information on this disease and the vaccines for it, as well as any information on alternative treatments for individuals with the disease. In this forum, I will not speculate on why this has happened. I do know that we have very little, if any, information on adverse vaccine reactions. This makes it difficult for anyone to make an intelligent decision about the risks of the disease versus the risks of the vaccination. And, there are risks with any vaccination, though those risks are very low with "traditional" vaccines ( that have very long trials required before being approved ). We don't know with this new technology. I do know that this technology has been tried in animals, and never has been successful due to an unacceptable level of adverse reactions when testing mRNA vaccines in animals.

    I wish that there was a truly safe vaccine for this virus ( in all it's variants ) that would truly immunize the recipient. I also wish there were behavior protocols that would fully protect, but there aren't. Masks, especially cloth or "surgical" masks, don't work. We need to not criticize those who contract the virus. It is possible that they did everything "right" ( according to the "expert recommendations" ), and still contracted the disease. And vaccinated individuals are just as likely to spread the disease as unvaccinated individuals. Maybe vaccinated people are more likely to be inadvertent "spreaders" because if it is true that having the vaccination lessens the symptoms, they may not know that they could be spreading the virus if they are asymptomatic. Before we had the vaccines, there were people who contracted Covid and never had obvious symptoms. Lighten up, folks!

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  • BubbaBillBubbaBill Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2021

    @Big Mike, I saw where the discussion was closed after your last post on MG’s most recent article. I don’t know if it was all the vaccine dialog, the “off topic” flags or maybe he was just fearful we would speak the truth and say something positive about the “Mailman”. BTW, I enjoyed reading about Sister Elizabeth Kenny per your recommendation before you were censored. Wow, what a great lady. Oh well, go Dawgs!!!

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