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Georgia stock report: Coaching and star players failed to measure up in 41-34 loss at Alabama

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  • SloanDawgSloanDawg Posts: 46 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Can we please start that QB that swapped jerseys with Beck in the 2nd half against Auburn?

  • JBMDawg46JBMDawg46 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    You can’t turn the ball over 4 times and beat a top 10 team.

  • ShoottheHoochShoottheHooch Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    We have been pissing away the first half every game this season with Kirby’s macho gamesmanship the first thirty minutes before opening it up in the second half. The first half of every game it’s like he is Mark Stoops with better players.

  • fruhofffruhoff Posts: 13 ✭ Freshman

    I'm like most of you…. if CKS said he was not prepared, then what was he doing for 2 weeks? Also, Mike Bobo has to be the most vanilla OC in college football! Oh, has anybody seen NATE FRAZIER? He has been the "real" #1 RB and CKS won't even acknowledge it. NATE FRAZIER makes something out of nothing, ETIENNE makes something only where the OL holes are…

  • Dogman912Dogman912 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Now that the hype is over, time to get back to work. Coaches need to go find us two game breaking wide receivers. , we need to learn how to start fast. I sure miss Todd monken

  • Gibroni88Gibroni88 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @fruhoff

    I don’t know what your issue is with Etienne, but he is a DGD.

    We lose to Kentucky if it wasn’t for that young man. And there were definitely NOT any holes for him made by our severely underperforming OL in THAT game.

    Etienne is nowhere near in the top 5 issues that this 2024 team has.

    I want to see Frazier as much as the next Dawg fan-but that has nothing to do with Etienne and his oerformance through week 5.

    SEE Coach Smart and his inexplicable reasoning for having 2 weeks to prepare this team for that game and being down 28 to 0 less than 3 minutes into Q2.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I like Em both. Etienne has much more experience and is a very good RB. But I also like the fire and passion Frazier brings. He doesn’t have the experience and his body probably isn’t as developed as Etienne yet, but the kid has Huge potential. I wish Kirby and Bobo would have used them in tandem NOT as a knock on Entienne but more like a one two punches from a boxer as each has a different running style. Might have helped, I don’t know. In that first half I sure can’t see where it would have hurt. 😥

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited September 29

    Um what’s with the cryptic sarcastic tone question ? Did I say something to offend your sensibilities ? If you’re trying to imply I’m Mark Richt, Thank You for the Huge compliment !! I wish I was half the quality human being and coach he was and is. Not that he’s coaching now.

    No he didn’t reach the heights that Kirby has but he was a very good coach. And I’ll always wonder what he Might have accomplished had UGA fully opened their wallet to him as they have certainly done for Kirby.
    Remember Mark offering to pay his coaching staff’s raises ? Any way I know you’re disappointed, All real Dawgs fans are. But directing sarcasm at me or any other fellow Dawgs fans won’t help matters even a tiny bit. Hope you get feeling better. Go Dawgs !!

    Oh and just for the record I’m very glad Kirby is here he’s done us proud. But go back and look at who was AD when Richt was here Richt had little to no financial help for the team and there was no NIL to help attract recruits. Facilities then were like comparing a VW Bug to a Bentley now !! Truth.

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Gibroni88 I love your posts. You bring more logic than most. How anyone can be upset with Etienne's play is beyond me. Agree with you that we don't beat Kentucky without him. Beck and the receivers certainly didn't contribute anything. And I, too, wondered what happened with Frazier Saturday night. I can only surmise that he was being punished for something, although as far as I can tell, not one reporter bothered to ask Kirby about his status after the game, and the TV commentators never mentioned him either.

    I'm with you, too, with regard to Smart saying he was unprepared. In an odd way, I truly hope he means that and wasn't just spewing that coach-speak that coaches say to take heat off their players after a bad game. But if true, I don't understand why they were so unprepared with 2 weeks to prepare. I mean, Smart talked like Milroe getting to the edge was such a shock ot them. And the fact that they essentially stopped him in the second half proves that it was POSSIBLE to do it. So, why didn't they come into the game ready to do that? And I was surprised that Beck, with all of his experience, seemed so caught off-guard by what he was seeing during the game. But he looked confused in the Kentucky game, too, and he admitted that he was "nervous" at the beginning of the Clemson game. What is that about? Guy has started 19 games now. The nerves should be largely gone.

    And I'm 1,000 percent with you with regard to both Arian Smith and Chaz Chambliss. Like you, I've been disappointed in both of them for two years now. It's not that they don't play hard. They do. But their play is typically underwhelming, especially for what we need and expect. For all of Smith's speed, after four years at UGA, he's still not regarded as one the SEC's best receivers. He probably wouldn't start at Bama, Texas or Tennessee. And Chambliss seems to always be on roller skates getting blocked backwards out of a play, or vainly chasing some guy who's running away from him.

    And I have become a broken record in asking why we can't sign a 5-star receiver. We haven't had one since George Pickens in 2019, and even that one was sort of a fluke. But it shouldn't be that hard to do, not for Kirby Smart and the University of Georgia. Auburn has one for crying out loud. Something isn't right with that situation because there is NO WAY you can make me believe that not a single 5-star wide receiver in this country has wanted to sign with Georgia — a two-time National Champion with a Heisman Trophy finalist QB — since 2019.

    Lastly, I'm glad @MikeGriffith made note of Malachi Starks. He's a very good college safety and a DGD, but he cannot cover elite wide receivers. Kirby has made us believe he can play any position in the secondary, but clearly he cannot, not against the elite teams. He's just a good safety. But unfortunately, he might very well be one of our two best cornerbacks.

  • 99nout99nout Posts: 256 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I dont know how you can say that with such authority. This team clearly lacks discipline. The O Line missed assignments, receivers missed routes, the back 7 can't tackle.
    That's all discipline.
    What happens off the field shows up on the field.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited September 30

    BA on Dawgnation said it today on the podcast. Saturday night we saw the difference between 5* and 3* WR's. Not to mention that Milroe is the best player in CFB. Certainly the most difficult to defend. AL has a higher avg grade per player than any other team and AL cleans up on 5* QB's and WR's. UGA has not been able to recruit many 5* offensive skill positions since before NIL. Those guys made the plays.

    I have agreed with UGA's evolution relative to recruiting. UGA not just buying up players like OSU, TX TN and AL (?). Still looking for good players that fit the culture, don't upset the "salary cap" and have developmental ceilings than can pay dividends. BUT the down side of that is that 5* QB's and WR's can be impossible to stop even by the best defenses and can beat you.

    I knew AL was good and thought before the season started they would win this game. But Beck looked like a freshman in his 1st game. It is never all on the QB but his passing has not been as accurate this year. A lot of passes behind the receivers. ASmith let a perfectly thrown bomb slide through his fingers and DBell couldn't handle a Beck laser that would've been a conversion. Seems like the AL players always make the plays vs UGA.

    If I have said it once I have said it a thousand times. The fade, even to a big WR like CYoung, is a very low percentage play. It is a unintelligent, desperation play. Beck throwing that ball up for grabs was inexcusable. Bobo calling that play was beyond unintelligent. As for Bobo, I am off the bandwagon. Repeated dive plays are fine when playing an inferior team and expecting to wear the other teams defense down. Better off trying something else besides running 185 lb Cash Jones into the line of scrimmage.

    AL was coached like a pro team. AL identified the weak link and went after it every time they needed a conversion. "but it was clear Alabama was looking to go after the senior safety" MG said about Dan Jackson. He was a step and a half late every time. There in time to make some tackles. He made a nice INT but then fell down. Had he been able to keep his feet it was all open field ahead.

    UGA is a young team that needs to grow up fast. A LOT of guys need to elevate their game.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited September 30

    I am not sure I follow your logic on discipline. The OL not making blocks and the back 7 failing to tackle to the UGA standard, to me, is more a function of them all being less talented than their predecessors.

    Yes it is a less disciplined team. Due to the youth/inexperience? But, IMO , it is a less hungry team. These young players are enjoying the NIL ride. Not surprising they would be enjoying the good life. AND they expect to win (on HS ratings, talent and history (42 straight wins)).

    This team is not as skilled or as hungry. The story of the season will be how bad do they want to improve and work from here on out.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The problem isn't ETN vs Frazier. W/UGA's rotation you need both players. In the UGA system you need 4 HEALTHY RB's. You need a healthy BRob and RRob.

    I like all 4 of those players. The problem is that Alabama always seems to have somebody better. UGA is 1-8 vs AL in the last 9 games? Saban always had the best talent. It will be interesting to see if DeBoer can keep that going.

    From what little I have seen of ETN, Frazier, BRob and Alabama's Haynes, Haynes will be best of all of them.

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