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ESPN's FPI....Are you kidding me?!

MinnesotaDawg

I try not to get hung up on irrelevant rankings too much....certainly the AP and Coaches poll have their flaws and biases. But with Georgia's relevancy in the playoff discussion this year, I'm certainly more sensitive to the discussion of rankings this year. That's why I continue to bristle at the reference to ESPN's FPI rankings in this debate. Over the course of last weekend's games (Thurs through Sat.) I saw the side-by-side comparison graphic of the committee's Top 5 with the FPI Top 5 on no less than four different game broadcasts. This wouldn't be so troubling, if the FPI wasn't so bizarre in its rankings...having Georgia at number 5 behind one-loss Ohio State (2) and Penn State (3) last week. Out of curiosity, I just checked out the FPI rankings AFTER this weekend's games...

Alabama
Ohio State (still!?)
Penn State (****??)
Washington (huh?)
Notre Dame
Georgia (down one spot)

I guess that the FPI is a model, that uses a ton of game simulations based on actual and projected results...but it seems more like the rankings of an old man living in a basement in Youngstown, Ohio. He doesn't actually follow college football, but did read the sports page over the course of a few weeks last December..... Weird.

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MacDawg15

That crap is biased due to panel members. Let's just shut the "experts" up and win. We control what we do.. I have no idea what playoff rankings are needed RIGHT NOW for, except to stir controversy. Big 10 and ND lovers smh

Kasey

Bear and Stanford Steve have been against Georgia all season. These things are nuts. It’s why we play the games.

Loooooove being overlooked though

JMFD

Who cares what ESPCNN turds think!!

MacDawg15

What's so crazy is if you look at Bear's and some other "experts" on Gameday's picks; they hover around 50-60% accurate, and these are people that do nothing but scout football teams lol. How are they "experts"?

Denmen185

@MacDawg15 said:
What's so crazy is if you look at Bear's and some other "experts" on Gameday's picks; they hover around 50-60% accurate, and these are people that do nothing but scout football teams lol. How are they "experts"?

Last I saw Bear is around 67% which is very high on lines that are set so as to be a coin flip. Having said that I think the FPI is totally off.

MIghtydawg

@MacDawg15 said:
That crap is biased due to panel members. Let's just shut the "experts" up and win. We control what we do.. I have no idea what playoff rankings are needed RIGHT NOW for, except to stir controversy. Big 10 and ND lovers smh

FPI is computer based. It must be that the computers are biased.

The computer rankings are only as good as the information put in. This is part of the reason that the BCS was eliminated. Now it is 13 people sitting in a room ranking teams.

MacDawg15

I didn't catch him last week. But I remember the previous week he was like 10-6 or 9-7. Bottom line is anything can happen week to week. Knowing the pulse of a team imo let's us know who's a favorite etc. That's why it's great to be a DAWG because nobody can dispute how focused this team is and the unseen recruiting wins in our history that we're being blessed with. Besides Bama and a few more, I don't see but a handful of programs moving 100% in the right direction with us. (Big picture)

MIghtydawg

You need to also understand what FPI is--The Football Power Index (FPI) is a measure of team strength that is meant to be the best predictor of a team's performance going forward for the rest of the season. FPI represents how many points above or below average a team is. Projected results are based on 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season using FPI, results to date, and the remaining schedule.

It is not ranking UGA as the 6th best team in the country. Rather the ranking is a reflection of the Dawgs upcoming schedule, which is ranked as the 9th toughest remaining in the country. Here is UGA's FPI resume, which is pretty strong.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=61&year=2017

Denmen185

@MacDawg15 said:
I didn't catch him last week. But I remember the previous week he was like 10-6 or 9-7. Bottom line is anything can happen week to week. Knowing the pulse of a team imo let's us know who's a favorite etc. That's why it's great to be a DAWG because nobody can dispute how focused this team is and the unseen recruiting wins in our history that we're being blessed with. Besides Bama and a few more, I don't see but a handful of programs moving 100% in the right direction with us. (Big picture)

Maybe we are looking at different things as I was referring to the 3 picks on Game Day only. There he was something around 17-9-1 I think for the season. You appear to be talking about some wider predictions for the week only.

MacDawg15

He WAS doing a top 25 pick em. Don't know if that's still going down or not.

MacDawg15

But I know the 3 your talking about.

MacDawg15

FPI is computer based. It must be that the computers are biased.

The computer rankings are only as good as the information put in. This is part of the reason that the BCS was eliminated. Now it is 13 people sitting in a room ranking teams.

Well after the PSU loss and OSU spanking in Iowa those are the dumbest computers I've heard of. Neither team should have a prayer to get in the CFP! Up to THIS day, the 4 best teams in the country are us, Bama, ND, and CU

MIghtydawg

That is not what it is saying. It is not ranking the top teams for the season. It is predicting who has the best chance of winning going forward.

MacDawg15

I understand what the poll's intent is, and what your saying. I'm JS those are the 4 best teams I've seen week in and week out. With Wisky possibly being there determining how they finish.

donm

@MIghtydawg said:

@MacDawg15 said:
That crap is biased due to panel members. Let's just shut the "experts" up and win. We control what we do.. I have no idea what playoff rankings are needed RIGHT NOW for, except to stir controversy. Big 10 and ND lovers smh

FPI is computer based. It must be that the computers are biased.

The computer rankings are only as good as the information put in. This is part of the reason that the BCS was eliminated. Now it is 13 people sitting in a room ranking teams.

Yeah, 13 people who picked Ohio State last year and left PSU out. There may be more bias in those 13 people than any computer model around. Who the heck is more biased than people? They are merely pretending to be objective as in the "eye" test.