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Im Ready For The Falcons To Trade Julio

BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

He’s the best player in football, but he’s placed himself above the team, so he’s not helping us anymore.

Let’s move on with the guys who want to play for the Falcons.

I would seek a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and about a million dollars to help pay salaries for guys who want to play now.

Im tired of the storyline. Let’s move on.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    He’s the best player in football, but he’s placed himself above the team, so he’s not helping us anymore.

    Let’s move on with the guys who want to play for the Falcons.

    I would seek a 1st, 2nd, 3rd and about a million dollars to help pay salaries for guys who want to play now.

    Im tired of the storyline. Let’s move on.

    He's not even the best WR, Antonio Brown is, but he is elite, though he can't score for chit.
    I'm not sure it wouldn't be a good football decision to move him if the return is right, even without the drama of the holdout.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Im thinking we replace him with 2 elite OLinemen and whatever else we can get.

    Ridley won’t back away from the challenge ahead.

  • SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    He’s the best WR in football...Matt Ryan needs ll the help he can get. Restructure Ryan’s contract and pay Julio. My Falcons are a constant gas bubble in my stomach.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    He’s the best WR in football...Matt Ryan needs ll the help he can get. Restructure Ryan’s contract and pay Julio. My Falcons are a constant gas bubble in my stomach.

    Julio can't catch the ball in the red zone, he has the fewest TDs of all thetop 70 receivers in yardage in NFL history, that is a glaring weakness, it cost us the playoff game in Philly.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    Im thinking we replace him with 2 elite OLinemen and whatever else we can get.

    Ridley won’t back away from the challenge ahead.

    Nobody will give up 2 elite OLs for a WR, few teams even have 2 on their roster.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    Im thinking we replace him with 2 elite OLinemen and whatever else we can get.

    Ridley won’t back away from the challenge ahead.

    Nobody will give up 2 elite OLs for a WR, few teams even have 2 on their roster.

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I was hoping to use a 1st and a 2nd round pick on Ilinemen and hope they pan out. I’m thinking more through the draft than free agency, or trade.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Trade him and use the draft picks to help recreate the identity of the offense.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    Im thinking we replace him with 2 elite OLinemen and whatever else we can get.

    Ridley won’t back away from the challenge ahead.

    Nobody will give up 2 elite OLs for a WR, few teams even have 2 on their roster.

    Wishful thinking on my part, but I was hoping to use a 1st and a 2nd round pick on Ilinemen and hope they pan out. I’m thinking more through the draft than free agency, or trade.

    I see your point.
    I think all player decisions will revolve around Matt Ryan though, which means looking for immediate help.
    This is not a team looking to stockpile draft picks at the expense of this year's team.
    If, (and it seems extremely unlikely) JJ is traded I think it will be for an elite player at a position of need, or maybe a couple of excellent players who are slightly below JJ's level.
    It seems very unlikely to happen unless Julio really forces their hand.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Jules has he Falcons by the Jewels

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    how does signing an existing player on the team at a different position to an extension effect using draft picks to address a need at another position? If anything, the Falcons need to resign Julio in order to use those draft picks on offensive linemen. Otherwise, they will have to use another high draft pick on a wide receiver.

    As for letting hulio go because of his attitude toward the team, I think it's a little naive to think that the next player won't have the same attitude. The reality is the players on the team probably support Julio's efforts to get as much money for himself as he can. All of the players understand that's the nature of their business. If we replace Julio with someone else who actually fills his shoes the next guy will also be seeking the big bucks too. The Falcons only options are to pay Julio what he wants, or trade him for as much as they can get in return. I do believe if Julio Jones played for New England Patriots that he would be on the trade block right now

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    We would get a solid receiver or lineman along with a first round pick. However, we would not get an elite player back. Anyone remember the sideline catch late in the Super Bowl that should have sealed the game? No one else makes that. With that said, Julio is on the downslope and isn’t worth top five receiver money. Plus, his attitude sucks. I say trade him.

  • brentwilsonbrentwilson Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    the only trade i would be cool with is sending him to New York for Odell.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:
    how does signing an existing player on the team at a different position to an extension effect using draft picks to address a need at another position? If anything, the Falcons need to resign Julio in order to use those draft picks on offensive linemen. Otherwise, they will have to use another high draft pick on a wide receiver.

    As for letting hulio go because of his attitude toward the team, I think it's a little naive to think that the next player won't have the same attitude. The reality is the players on the team probably support Julio's efforts to get as much money for himself as he can. All of the players understand that's the nature of their business. If we replace Julio with someone else who actually fills his shoes the next guy will also be seeking the big bucks too. The Falcons only options are to pay Julio what he wants, or trade him for as much as they can get in return. I do believe if Julio Jones played for New England Patriots that he would be on the trade block right now

    Really though, how often does a team face a holdout from a WR ?
    I doubt it's once a decade.
    The Falcons will keep JJ because it's in their interest to do so.
    If the team was in a rebuilding mode, he'd likely be traded. A top WR with some age on him wouldn't have much value to a team looking 3 or 4 years down the road. Atlanta was a dropped pass away ( by JJ) to making the NFC Title Game last season and Matt Ryan only has so many prime years left in him, this is about the immediate future and it's hard to dream up a trade of JJ that would make the team stronger right away. There is a real need for for a top NT, and depth along the defensive front 7, but that would be tough to pull off and weakening the offense to strengthen the defense might not be a net gain.
    Whatever happens, the staff needs to ride JJ's arse about his lack of red zone production, that is a real problem.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    And so now it becomes clear why the Falcons drafted Ridley with their 1st round pick...

    Didn’t make sense before.

    Falcons should trade him now. It’s happened in the past that receivers have torn it up in year 1.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree. I like Julio. The man works hard at his craft, but he’s hurting the team and he needs to get traded if he’s not back with the team by the end of July.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    I agree. I like Julio. The man works hard at his craft, but he’s hurting the team and he needs to get traded if he’s not back with the team by the end of July.

    I've noticed that the more an organization tolerates, the more the intolerable BS comes out.
    Most posters recall just a few years ago coaches were pandering to the worst in recruits. We had immature boys acting out on social media, openly taunting coaches and fan bases, etc. When adults decided enough was enough, 95% of it went away seemingly overnight.
    My point, don't pander to these athletes who disrupt the team with demands beyond what they and their agents agreed to contractually. If he won't abide by the contract, stop paying him till he fulfills the terms he agreed to.

  • PeachCoDawgPeachCoDawg Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I say pay him, even though my gut doesn't like it. Right now, I think he has the Birds by the cojones. It seems out of his character. I always thought of Julio as the consummate pro. He works his tail off. You never hear much from him on or off the field (and that's very rare among elite WRs). Right now I just can't see the team without him. Top 3 WR, future HOF. I just don't see them parting ways over this, but I could be wrong. It'd be a sad day as a Falcon fan, but we'll see

  • Dawg14Dawg14 Posts: 118 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Trade him and sign Dez Bryant for the one year prove it deal. Ditch him after the year and redraft.

  • christopheruleschristopherules Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited June 2018

    Ancient coaching quote
    “There is no letter I in T-E-A-M.”
    Julio Jones ought to know that better than most. He no longer wants to be a part of his team? Then he needs his walking papers.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PeachCoDawg said:
    I say pay him, even though my gut doesn't like it. Right now, I think he has the Birds by the cojones. It seems out of his character. I always thought of Julio as the consummate pro. He works his tail off. You never hear much from him on or off the field (and that's very rare among elite WRs). Right now I just can't see the team without him. Top 3 WR, future HOF. I just don't see them parting ways over this, but I could be wrong. It'd be a sad day as a Falcon fan, but we'll see

    I'd let him sit without pay till he decides to honor his contract. I might give him something if he honors the agreement, but I wouldn't give in to extortion.

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