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Georgia Tech adjusts substance-abuse policy for athletes

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  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sounds like some of y'all need to become GA Tech fans since you like all this lenience on substance abuse so much. Other schools can keep that stuff, we don't need those kinds of players

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @levander said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Substance abuse would be a 1 strike and you are out in my book, but I am not in charge so it does not matter

    So I'm assuming that you've never taken a drink in your life then? Or maybe you don't understand the meaning of substance abuse? Because getting caught smoking pot on one occasion, which is what most of these guys are caught for, doesn't mean someone is abusing drugs.

    In fact abuse of our national "legal" drug alcohol causes a lot more problems than pot ever could in terms of adversely affecting the ones drinking and others ie. drunk driving, fights, and spousal/child abuse. Now if you mean guys who piss their careers away by failing multiple tests then ok, but you seem to be preaching no tolerance and characterizing occasional use of pot as being drug abuse because it's illegal in most states currently. So is speeding, drinking more than two beers in a night and driving, etc. Glass houses meet stones and all that.

    Your own personal beliefs do not designate what is legal and what is illegal. All of these guys know what is illegal. All of these guys know what is right and what is wrong. All of these guys know the opportunity that has been presented before them. Play **** games and you win **** prizes

    Again, I am not the one in charge of this so it really does not matter... but its not hard to sit the guys down and tell them what they can and can not do (which I am sure is essentially day 1).... and in my world there is no room for substance abuse. I smoke weed “one time” and get popped for a random drug test and lose my job and lose my license..... its still MY FAULT that I lost my job because of my own personal choices that I made for something that was ILLEGAL..... regardless of my personal beliefs. Most of us don’t get second chances for these types of things in our life and athletes should not get special treatment from it either

    Players who want to violate the rules that they are given can go play for Auburn

    It’s illegal to drive over the speed limit too. Would you kick them off the team if someone drove 5 miles op an hour over the speed limit?

    Just because you got **** rules in your industry doesn’t mean we need them everywhere.

    So in your opinion speeding is equivalent to substance abuse?

    All "rules" are not created equally

    Go into work tomorrow and tell them you got a speeding ticket.... then tell them you got arrested for doing drugs.... let me know if they carry the same weight

    No, in my opinion they’re not the same.

    But the argument you gave against marijuana for why it should be so obviously off limits is that is it “ILLEGAL” (your caps, not mine). I gave an example of something else that is illegal.

    And I’ve worked in the past with people who have had drug issues. Thankfully I worked at places that tried to help them, not fire them.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well.... I know who voted for Hillary

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Well.... I know who voted for Hillary

    Cool. I’m gonna quote you on that next time I’m accused of being a Trump supporter on this board. Maybe I can get you guys who view everything political through a narrow lens to start arguing with each other and take each other out?

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Well.... I know who voted for Hillary

    Voted for trump and i smoke. The majority of people’s political views don’t stick to party lines (some exceptions, such as Paul Ryan).

    Bringing politics into this is pretty lame man. If you believe college students (or anyone for that matter) should be suspended for smoking dope, you don’t understand it.

    Do yourself a favor man. Go downtown wherever you live, get your hands on a gram of it (probably $10), roll up a fat j, and see why these kids like it so much

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I personally believe it should be legal

    But for now it's still an illegal substance and for me and my job I will be sure to steer clear because I'm surely not about to get some 3 strikes and I'm out treatment

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The whole point on this is that GA tech is being too lenient in this policy in my opinion and that an illegal substance is not just isolated to weed.

    If I am running a football team (which I am not) then I do not have time to sit around and babysit on those who are abusing illegal substances (that is not just weed). Someone knew a major rule that was placed in front of them and chose to break it. That person is taking a spot of another person who wants to focus on football and not going out and smoking weed or snorting cocaine and popping pills

    Lets say life is a fairy tell for now and that weed is not classified as an illegal substance like cocaine and meth..... are you telling me that you would be ok with UGA following the same policy as GA tech is implementing in the case of players testing positive for cocaine?

  • PlayHurtPlayHurt Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So they can get busted and stay clean for 9 months and have their slate cleaned? That means in a 5 year period, they could get busted 6 times and never have more than one strike on their record. Sounds like the old Steve Spurrier rule. Garcia & Clowney would’ve never made a semester in Athens. All this is going to do is teach them to push the envelope even more.

  • bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here is my thoughts on weed:

    I don’t smoke.
    I think that these guys are in “car wrecks” each game.
    Pain killers are very addictive and hard to get legally for playing without jumping through a ton of hoops.
    Beer is legal after junior year, but take quite a few to “soften the pain”
    Weed is cheaper. $10 could help with pain, with fewer side effects than pain killers.

    I don’t participate, but I can understand.

    My two cents.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PlayHurt said:
    So they can get busted and stay clean for 9 months and have their slate cleaned? That means in a 5 year period, they could get busted 6 times and never have more than one strike on their record. Sounds like the old Steve Spurrier rule. Garcia & Clowney would’ve never made a semester in Athens. All this is going to do is teach them to push the envelope even more.

    The article says they can only remove a strike once.

    And the article also implies, but does not say that the strike doesn’t just automatically go away with the passage of time. It seems like the student has to do something particular during those nine months. Like maybe participate in a counseling or education program.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @bmauldin said:
    Here is my thoughts on weed:

    I don’t smoke.
    I think that these guys are in “car wrecks” each game.
    Pain killers are very addictive and hard to get legally for playing without jumping through a ton of hoops.
    Beer is legal after junior year, but take quite a few to “soften the pain”
    Weed is cheaper. $10 could help with pain, with fewer side effects than pain killers.

    I don’t participate, but I can understand.

    My two cents.

    Unfortunately the article pertaining to GA techs new policy does not just include weed. If I am reading into the article incorrectly someone please let me know

  • DirtDawgDirtDawg Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @bmauldin said:
    Here is my thoughts on weed:

    I don’t smoke.
    I think that these guys are in “car wrecks” each game.
    Pain killers are very addictive and hard to get legally for playing without jumping through a ton of hoops.
    Beer is legal after junior year, but take quite a few to “soften the pain”
    Weed is cheaper. $10 could help with pain, with fewer side effects than pain killers.

    I don’t participate, but I can understand.

    My two cents.

    Unfortunately the article pertaining to GA techs new policy does not just include weed. If I am reading into the article incorrectly someone please let me know

    Off Topic Alert!

    I'm not on this board to debate the merits of legalizing pot. It's fine with me if ya'll want to continue that debate, though (not that you need my permission to do so...)

    I would just like to request that, when referring to the enemy in ATL, we all quit placing the GA in front of Tech. When mentioning the bees, Tech will suffice.

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