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Jalen vs Alabama

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  • @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Or......

    Does Alabama run this “Dual QB system” and put in Hurts or Tau depending on the defense and game situation that some seem to think that UGA should implement with Fields and Fromm

    Just my opinion but I don't know if Little Nicky is going to risk losing a commitment (don't know if he's committed or not) from Tua's brother. The coaching staff and players seem to agree that Tua is the better choice. Sure they could run with Jalen thru the regular season unscathed, but the Tagovailoa family would disapprove. That is if any of the news about Tua thinking about transferring before the Championship game was true.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @moos said:

    @AgDawg said:

    @Teddy said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @levander said:

    @pgjackson said:
    Not sure what he gains by staying at Bama if he is not the starter this year. It will just burn a year of eligibility. I'd go ahead and transfer now. Sit out 2018, and start in 2019 with two years left. He might also want to think about a position change. Not sure he is an NFL QB.

    Jalen has said he’s graduating in December. So he wants to stay at Bama till then.

    Interesting. So he wants to burn a year of eligibility I guess. Not sure what he gains from sticking around. He could transfer now and still graduate in December (I assume Bama's courses transfer pretty much anywhere). Start a Master's program in the Spring semester at the next school and play in 2019. I wonder what his long-term goals are. If he wants to get to the NFL, he needs to think about finding a program that will develop him as a Pro-style QB and get there as quickly as possible. Bama is not going to get him there.

    He can just play in 4 games or under and it technically be a redshirt.

    But do you really think Saban is going to let him only play in four games?

    Not in his power to control.

    Saban, "Go in for garbage time."
    Jalen, "I can't, coach, my knee hurts."

    A little shocked Eason didn't do that last year

  • pgjacksonpgjackson ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Or......

    Does Alabama run this “Dual QB system” and put in Hurts or Tau depending on the defense and game situation that some seem to think that UGA should implement with Fields and Fromm

    Never seen that done with identical QBs before. Usually it's done with totally different QB styles (like Fromm/Fields, Greene/Shockley, Leak/Tebow). Hurts and Tua are the same guy. The only benefit to it would be trying to keep both happy...which will probably result in both being very unhappy.

  • moosmoos ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2018

    @pgjackson said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @moos said:

    @AgDawg said:

    @Teddy said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @levander said:

    @pgjackson said:
    Not sure what he gains by staying at Bama if he is not the starter this year. It will just burn a year of eligibility. I'd go ahead and transfer now. Sit out 2018, and start in 2019 with two years left. He might also want to think about a position change. Not sure he is an NFL QB.

    Jalen has said he’s graduating in December. So he wants to stay at Bama till then.

    Interesting. So he wants to burn a year of eligibility I guess. Not sure what he gains from sticking around. He could transfer now and still graduate in December (I assume Bama's courses transfer pretty much anywhere). Start a Master's program in the Spring semester at the next school and play in 2019. I wonder what his long-term goals are. If he wants to get to the NFL, he needs to think about finding a program that will develop him as a Pro-style QB and get there as quickly as possible. Bama is not going to get him there.

    He can just play in 4 games or under and it technically be a redshirt.

    But do you really think Saban is going to let him only play in four games?

    Not in his power to control.

    Saban, "Go in for garbage time."
    Jalen, "I can't, coach, my knee hurts."

    A little shocked Eason didn't do that last year

    Eason was a trooper. He did what he was asked to do. No complaints, drama or pouting. DGD.

    Eason also didn't have the benefit of 4 game redshirt rule. He would have had to apply for a medical.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @pgjackson said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Or......

    Does Alabama run this “Dual QB system” and put in Hurts or Tau depending on the defense and game situation that some seem to think that UGA should implement with Fields and Fromm

    Never seen that done with identical QBs before. Usually it's done with totally different QB styles (like Fromm/Fields, Greene/Shockley, Leak/Tebow). Hurts and Tua are the same guy. The only benefit to it would be trying to keep both happy...which will probably result in both being very unhappy.

    Tau and Hurts. Both are passers with Hurts having more athletic ability/running ability. Tau may have a slight better arm while Hurts has the experience under his belt

    Fields and Fromm: Both are passers with Fields having more athletic ability/running ability. Fromm may have a slight better arm while Fromm has the experience under his belt

  • brentwilsonbrentwilson ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    this quarter back controversy is something i would’ve never seen coming from Bama. Saban usually controls these things.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Or......

    Does Alabama run this “Dual QB system” and put in Hurts or Tau depending on the defense and game situation that some seem to think that UGA should implement with Fields and Fromm

    Never seen that done with identical QBs before. Usually it's done with totally different QB styles (like Fromm/Fields, Greene/Shockley, Leak/Tebow). Hurts and Tua are the same guy. The only benefit to it would be trying to keep both happy...which will probably result in both being very unhappy.

    Tau and Hurts. Both are passers with Hurts having more athletic ability/running ability. Tau may have a slight better arm while Hurts has the experience under his belt

    Fields and Fromm: Both are passers with Fields having more athletic ability/running ability. Fromm may have a slight better arm while Fromm has the experience under his belt

    Tua and Hurts are both running QBs who have no aspirations of being a drop-back passer. Fromm is a drop-back passer who has enough running ability to get away once in a while. Fields is a running QB who is coming here to learn to be drop-back passer, but still has the running abilities of Tua/Hurts.

  • @brentwilson said:
    this quarter back controversy is something i would’ve never seen coming from Bama. Saban usually controls these things.

    Part of me is wondering if Saban is orchestrating it so no one asks about title aspirations instead. Not saying that’s what’s happening, but I wouldn’t put it past the guy

  • MikeGriffithMikeGriffith ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Jalen should not have been the SEC Offensive POY in 2016. Josh Dobbs led the SEC in offense and touchdowns and as a senior was a much more effective QB ....

  • RPMdawgRPMdawg ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @brentwilson said:
    this quarter back controversy is something i would’ve never seen coming from Bama. Saban usually controls these things.

    Agree. Dad spouting off made it harder. Now Jalen himself. I think he's gone

  • levanderlevander ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @brentwilson said:
    this quarter back controversy is something i would’ve never seen coming from Bama. Saban usually controls these things.

    Saban controls these things?

    Both Bateman and Barnett had bad things to say about Saban after they left. I can’t remember all their names, but there have been several players who’ve left Bama and had cross words about the way Saban runs things. Who was the receiver that got injured, and after he got healthy never got back into the rotation? After he left he sad he was disappointed because after he came back from injury, he felt like he never was given the opportunity to get back into the rotation?

    And note that what Jalen said about Saban is very similar to what Bateman and Barnett said about him, poor communication.

    And when.players leave, Saban has often had bad things to say about those players. Remember Saban going on a radio talk show, to make fun of Barnett an 18 year old kid at the time?

    My guess is Jalen just wanted to have his opinion on the record, before he left. Because the people who waited until after they left, and even after Saban criticized them, their opinions were pretty much ignored by the media.

    Now I’m not saying Jalen won’t be there this year. I don’t know what’s gonna happen this year. But I don’t think Jalen will be at Bama next year.

  • dbrown7494dbrown7494 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Croatiadawg said:
    total curiosity, but if he quits the team, forgoes his scholarship, pays his own way, graduates in December - is that in state or out of state tuition?

    He would probably qualify for in state at this point. He has been living there for 2 years and at most schools after a couple years at a school you can get instate. Especially if you get an apartment and live there.

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