Playoff expansion

levander

@ftn49 said:

@levander said:

@ftn49 said:

@levander said:
Here’s a video I watched awhile back that should help you guys who want playoff expansion understand what you are pushing for.

One thing Saban doesn’t say is it not only affects players sitting out bowl games. But it also affects which schools recruits are willing to consider.

https://youtu.be/nTubMhVKDvI

The single most thing I dislike about college football rather than the pros is the bowl system. I'm am absolutely at peace with kids who want to skip meaningless bowl games to protect themselves from injury. And I would love a 16 team tournament. Because you never know.

Just for equal measure, the best part about the college game in my opinion at least as it relates to the field is the overtime system. Absolutely love it.

It sounds like you’re trading something incidental that only rarely happens (overtime) for something that’s integral to the system (the bowl system).

Do you consider yourself more of a college fan or a pro fan?

You sound like a pro fan to me. Because your opinion makes more sense to me if you’re more of a pro fan.

I definitely was a pro fan first. I grew up in the Midwest and watching div 2 football if I wanted to watch college football for the most part. They had a playoff too. It wasn't until I moved to Athens after military service that I became a bulldog (and college football) fan. And at first it was more of a way to watch the pro stars before the became pro stars. I love the college game, I truly do, there is more energy in general with the games that **** you in. But the whole bowl system thing baffles me and I don't get why anyone who is a fan of any team with even a mediocre shot at a title would not want a playoff system. I can understand the Alabama's of the world not wanting it because they have less competition to be crowned champs but for everyone else? no

That bowl system is a big part of the reason there’s all the excitement all over the place. That’s what Saban was saying when he pointed out if you were in the Big 10, the biggest thing was making the Rose Bowl. And if you were in the SEC, making the Sugar Bowl was the biggest thing.

But if you centralize, and make it go top down like a pyramid scheme, you end going more and more in the direction we have today. Where fewer teams are winning the most important games every year. And not just because there’s only one most important game. But over the years, the teams who win that one game are becoming more and more the same teams. These teams being Alabama, Ohio State, I think there are one or two more. But back like when UGA won the national title, it wasn’t uncommon for a team to win the national title, then not hear from them again for a decade or two.

The disappearance of the importance of the bowl system is a big reason that year in, year out, it’s the same schools getting the best recruits. Kirby has flat out said a main thing he looks for is recruit s who want to win championships. Well, if there’s only one championship that’s really important. There are much fewer schools to choose from.

The whole thing is a cycle that doesn’t really have a start and an end. But hopefully I’ve gone though enough where you can understand the importance of the bowl system to college football.

DawginSC

@pgjackson said:

@donm said:

Maybe we need to get rid of the subjective "Best" team and just go with Conference Champions. That will eliminate all whining and complaining. Of course there is a chance some low ranked team happens to win their conference, like if in 2016 the #19 VT had beaten Clemson in the ACCCG. Well, Clemson is out and VT is in. Sorry, that's how it goes.

I don’t think that eliminates whining. **What if Bama’s loses in OT to a 2 loss SEC East ream. **There will be lots of whining about the east rep being not as good as Bama. The PAC 12 champ is thought by many to be not as deserving as non-champs from other conferences. No selection method will elliminate whining and complaining.ask UCF. What if UCF ha d gone to the playoffs. Imagine the whining from one of the final 4 whose place they took. Whining is around to stay.

I'd say the head-to-head game proved otherwise. I mean, that's why they play the game, right? If a 9-3 SECE team beats a 12-0 SECW team in the SECCG...well, they settled it on the field. Tough-t!tties for the team that lost.

The problem is both UGA and Bama were 11-1 in the regular season with a loss to Auburn at their place.

UGA got a second shot at a neutral site because we were from the other division. Bama didn't.

The "on the field" thing was a matter of luck due to what division we were in last year. Auburn was a much weaker team when they weren't at home. I don't think luck of what division or what conference you're in should get you an automatic playoff bid.