Reason for Jake Fromm’s regression???

JayDog

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The thing is you don't know how those QB's are being handled in practice. Without that context, you can't know how well the coaches are doing with them. Without that context, you can't credibly judge coaching decisions in game. The performance issues are affected by too many variables that don't relate to coaching. One play it might be the OL. Another it might be a wrong route. Coaches might be part of it--but there is plenty of blame to go around.

WCDawg

@JayDog said:

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The thing is you don't know how those QB's are being handled in practice. Without that context, you can't know how well the coaches are doing with them. Without that context, you can't credibly judge coaching decisions in game. The performance issues are affected by too many variables that don't relate to coaching. One play it might be the OL. Another it might be a wrong route. Coaches might be part of it--but there is plenty of blame to go around.

I can see, hear and read.
Something is clearly not what it should be, I think my ideas on why are sound.

Casanova_Flatulence

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The coaching change could definitely be a factor, as you point out. One easy fix IMO is to get Coley out of the booth. Kirby does NOT need him up there. As the QB coach Coley needs to be on the field talking his guys after each series and coaching them up or calming them down. He can't look at the whites of their eyes from up in the booth. This seems so elementary to me!

levander

I think Griff has made the best guess so far, Just too **** many receivers on the UGA roster. And from listening to Kirby, as many as possible are getting reps. So Jake’s not getting to practice with a core group of receivers enough to develop chemistry and comfort with them. There’s no knowing what the guy is gonna do just before he does it. And somresults have suffered.

If you rewatch the LSU game, it wasn’t just Jake having an off day. There were a lot of dropped passes too. Kirby made a comment that there were a lot of routes run by receivers that were just incorrect,

Something is off with the entire passing game. Not just Jake.

WCDawg

@Casanova_Flatulence said:

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The coaching change could definitely be a factor, as you point out. One easy fix IMO is to get Coley out of the booth. Kirby does NOT need him up there. As the QB coach Coley needs to be on the field talking his guys after each series and coaching them up or calming them down. He can't look at the whites of their eyes from up in the booth. This seems so elementary to me!

I think since we have the formula from last season still on staff, move Chaney back to coaching QBs and put Coley back where he got good results, coaching WRs. Putting Hankton with TEs wouldn't be a big deal, it's probably the least important coaching position other than maybe RBs.

brentwilson

It's sports there are just some days where nothing can go right for you, and everything can go right for the other team. That was one of those days last week.

levander

@WCDawg said:

@Casanova_Flatulence said:

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The coaching change could definitely be a factor, as you point out. One easy fix IMO is to get Coley out of the booth. Kirby does NOT need him up there. As the QB coach Coley needs to be on the field talking his guys after each series and coaching them up or calming them down. He can't look at the whites of their eyes from up in the booth. This seems so elementary to me!

I think since we have the formula from last season still on staff, move Chaney back to coaching QBs and put Coley back where he got good results, coaching WRs. Putting Hankton with TEs wouldn't be a big deal, it's probably the least important coaching position other than maybe RBs.

Haven’t you already posted your QB coaching theory in this thread?

706Dawg

@Kasey said:

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Ha! That’s cute +1, lmao.

WCDawg

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@Casanova_Flatulence said:

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The coaching change could definitely be a factor, as you point out. One easy fix IMO is to get Coley out of the booth. Kirby does NOT need him up there. As the QB coach Coley needs to be on the field talking his guys after each series and coaching them up or calming them down. He can't look at the whites of their eyes from up in the booth. This seems so elementary to me!

I think since we have the formula from last season still on staff, move Chaney back to coaching QBs and put Coley back where he got good results, coaching WRs. Putting Hankton with TEs wouldn't be a big deal, it's probably the least important coaching position other than maybe RBs.

Haven’t you already posted your QB coaching theory in this thread?

Then maybe I should just not respond to posts like yours and others directed to me. is that your contention ?

dawgnms

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@Casanova_Flatulence said:

@WCDawg said:

@LowcountryDawg21 said:
Good looking, charismatic young man who is the starting QB for a major college football program...think I’d be more concerned if he DIDN’T have a girlfriend.

He had a bad game. From some of the things Kirby’s said during the week, sounds like some of the receivers did too (running wrong routes, etc.). It was a bad game, from start to finish, in all aspects. There are some personnel issues that aren’t going away (D-line), but I’ve come to believe that this was just a bad game.

The regression is the entire advanced areas of the passing game, and started long before The LSU game,it's both QBs and receivers. A lack of communication, wrong routes, poor timing, etc,etc. I keep coming back to the 2 critical coaching reassignments and how both QBs are being handled.

The coaching change could definitely be a factor, as you point out. One easy fix IMO is to get Coley out of the booth. Kirby does NOT need him up there. As the QB coach Coley needs to be on the field talking his guys after each series and coaching them up or calming them down. He can't look at the whites of their eyes from up in the booth. This seems so elementary to me!

I think since we have the formula from last season still on staff, move Chaney back to coaching QBs and put Coley back where he got good results, coaching WRs. Putting Hankton with TEs wouldn't be a big deal, it's probably the least important coaching position other than maybe RBs.

Haven’t you already posted your QB coaching theory in this thread?

Not ONLY this thread lol

706Dawg

Not that another opinion is needed on the QBs overall performance YTD but is it possible we’re making too much of all speculation? Coaches, competition, famililarity with WRs, too much responsibility etc. I don’t think any of us really know including staff as of course they would aggressively plot a course of correction. Let the professionals figure it out.

I think we just have to let this play out and pray that it works out. I’m in the camp of “just win baby!” Doesn’t matter who’s behind center. Dawgs first, individuals second. JMO.

levander

@706Dawg said:
Not that another opinion is needed on the QBs overall performance YTD but is it possible we’re making too much of all speculation? Coaches, competition, famililarity with WRs, too much responsibility etc. I don’t think any of us really know including staff as of course they would aggressively plot a course of correction. Let the professionals figure it out.

I think we just have to let this play out and pray that it works out. I’m in the camp of “just win baby!” Doesn’t matter who’s behind center. Dawgs first, individuals second. JMO.

I understand the sentiment. Esoecially in a thread started because of a picture a college student posted on Instagram with his girlfriend. But that’s not gonna happen. We’re gonna discuss this till our thumbs fall off. Especially considering this is a discussion board.

But Sentell was willing to start a food section on this forum. Maybe if you ask him he’ll start a prayer section too?

706Dawg

@levander said:

@706Dawg said:
Not that another opinion is needed on the QBs overall performance YTD but is it possible we’re making too much of all speculation? Coaches, competition, famililarity with WRs, too much responsibility etc. I don’t think any of us really know including staff as of course they would aggressively plot a course of correction. Let the professionals figure it out.

I think we just have to let this play out and pray that it works out. I’m in the camp of “just win baby!” Doesn’t matter who’s behind center. Dawgs first, individuals second. JMO.

I understand the sentiment. Esoecially in a thread started because of a picture a college student posted on Instagram with his girlfriend. But that’s not gonna happen. We’re gonna discuss this till our thumbs fall off. Especially considering this is a discussion board.

But Sentell was willing to start a food section on this forum. Maybe if you ask him he’ll start a prayer section too?

Yeah not trying to dictate convo, this is an opinion board and I’ve been here for 5 mins. As I’ve gotten caught up on the 15 threads about our QBs, I haven’t seen a divide this evident since Richts finals days and what we should do. Just feeling that the strong opinions are premature. LSU whooped us, envoked emotion, and our offense has sputtered in relation to expectations. Not sure of the answer, just hoping we find one.

BrettGarr

@jtdawg2020 said:
Just saw Instagram post with Jake From and apparent girlfriend. Can’t help but wonder if great town of Athens and all it has to offer (including potential girlfriends) has distracted Jake and got him a bit off his game this year. This might seem a little far fetched initially but we all know how women can get us off our game (especially in the beginning dating phase). This may not make a difference for an O-Lineman but with QB position being so cerebral and Jake being a qb that so heavily relies on that as opposed to his athleticism, I think this is a true possibility. Thoughts?

You're right -- it IS far-fetched...

levander

@706Dawg said:

@levander said:

@706Dawg said:
Not that another opinion is needed on the QBs overall performance YTD but is it possible we’re making too much of all speculation? Coaches, competition, famililarity with WRs, too much responsibility etc. I don’t think any of us really know including staff as of course they would aggressively plot a course of correction. Let the professionals figure it out.

I think we just have to let this play out and pray that it works out. I’m in the camp of “just win baby!” Doesn’t matter who’s behind center. Dawgs first, individuals second. JMO.

I understand the sentiment. Esoecially in a thread started because of a picture a college student posted on Instagram with his girlfriend. But that’s not gonna happen. We’re gonna discuss this till our thumbs fall off. Especially considering this is a discussion board.

But Sentell was willing to start a food section on this forum. Maybe if you ask him he’ll start a prayer section too?

Yeah not trying to dictate convo, this is an opinion board and I’ve been here for 5 mins. As I’ve gotten caught up on the 15 threads about our QBs, I haven’t seen a divide this evident since Richts finals days and what we should do. Just feeling that the strong opinions are premature. LSU whooped us, envoked emotion, and our offense has sputtered in relation to expectations. Not sure of the answer, just hoping we find one.

Being QB of a football team is like being lead singer in a rock band. You always get way too much attention. And all this Jake vs Justin started back during the recruitment of Justin. A lot of people been very hungry for a dual threat QB. DT QB’s got such hype behind them, for a long time people were running around saying stuff like “you can’t beat Bama unless you got a DT QB!” Then people started making lists of the QBs who have beaten Bama, and you still hear that line, but not nearly as much any more. But now that we got Justin on the bench, and people have read all the media hype about him during recruiting, people can just taste having a DT QB in our back field. They could care less if they have to throw Fromm under the bus.

This Jake vs Justin stuff isn’t new. It’s just at another flash point because Jake had a bad day last Saturday. Some (not all) of the pro-Justin guys were even arguing we should start Justin go8ng into the season.

But it’s li,e I said. It’s like being lead singer in a rock band. There’s always too much hype and attention on that position. If you want more serious discussion, you’re probably better off looking at different positions.