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Wealthy parents bribe their kids in to elite colleges using athletic teams

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The lawsuits could get interesting. If Title IX has held true for private universities, then why not a claim from an individual for equal access. The public schools could have even bugger problems A citizen of the State of California was denied admission to USC because someone else bought their spot?

    I am more concerned with how this came to find the light of day. Was it during the course of the Adidas investigation? Did a wiretap turn up a conversation to the effect of, “Yeah, the kid will sign with us but how is he going to be eligible?” Answer from the other end: “We have a guy who can get him eligible. Take the test for him.” BOOM. ( New Investigation Begins)

    How deep does this really go?

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    @Bankwalker apparently a Yale dad was under investigation for a "pump and dump" scheme by the securities and exchange commission and gave them info on the admissions stuff for leniency.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-yale-dad-who-set-off-the-college-admissions-scandal-11552588402

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I find my patients don’t sweat the petty stuff as long as I don’t pet the sweaty stuff. Brain surgery, rocket science, and managing retirement plans isn’t hard as long as I don’t hit the malt liquor before 3:00.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    100% media drive? The FBI seems to think otherwise... They put a LOT of resources into this.


    I wonder if all of this somehow dovetailed off that basketball investigation they did a couple of years back?

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It doesn't. Someone else who bribed his kid into Yale was being investigated for a "pump and dump" scheme and gave them info on the admissions scandal for leniency.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I just saw your post, thanks. Guess that's what I get for commenting before catching up with the rest of the post.


    For punishment I shall have another cup of coffee.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Parents flying a kid to LA to take the SAT? Jeez. I recall having to drive 12 miles from Hayward, CA to Oakland to take the SAT and being nervous about that since it was in an area I'd never been to before. I did fly once from Oakland with our senior class to LA to visit Disneyland - the original one. The times they are still a changiin'.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm doing the same right now. Honestly, the basketball thing seemed like a logical next step, but the pump and dump is a hilarious bow atop this debacle.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I though it was strange at first, but these kids are super privileged. Flying to LA for the weekend could be normal for them. Except that time they had to take a test for a couple hours before going shopping.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,971 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    None of this has to do with the schools. This is all about a small number of individuals cheating the system. It's been blown out of proportion because a couple of celebrities are involved. People act all outraged like there is a systemic problem with the university system. These big schools get tens of thousands of applications every year. They don't do investigations on all of them. Lots of kids scam their way into college. Not saying it's right or something that should be ignored, just saying it's nothing to get upset about. Any time you are dealing with large numbers of people, a certain % are doing something wrong.

    To me the bigger problem is how did these school athletic departments allow non-athletes to get spots on rosters? Are there no checks and balances to verify that these kids who are admitted based on a coach's recommendation are actually capable athletes? We hear the term "Lack of Institutional Control" used a lot when some school gets hammered for a recruiting violation. I guess that since none of these kids received scholarships that the NCAA really doesn't care about it.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,971 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think the whole idea of IMG is corrupt. I can't believe they are allowed to exist as a high school and compete against other high schools. I hate the whole idea of IMG. The whole "school" is designed to get kids athletic scholarships one way or another. If I was the NCAA, I'd be investigating IMG. I'll bet a paycheck there is a lot of questionable activity going on there.

    It's not the school's job to verify that every student actually took an SAT. With thousands and thousands of applicants every year, they aren't set up to investigate that kind of potential fraud. If some D1 athlete submitted fraudulent credentials, it's not the school's fault...unless someone can prove the school administration knew about it.

    By the way, if you don't have kids in school...the entire public school curriculum is basically designed to prepare kids for taking standardized tests. HOW to take the tests is more important that actually knowing stuff. There are TONS of programs out there specifically to train students how to get a better score on the ACT and SAT...and it's not all academic knowledge based.

    There are a lot of kids out there with real potential who can't get into an elite school simply because they didn't get a super high SAT/ACT score. There are also countless dropouts who aced their standardized test, got into the elite school legitimately, but ultimately failed. Who knows, maybe some of these kids involved in this situation are actually pretty good students.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If he was taking tests for athletes, he is going to sell everybody out for a reduced sentence. "I took tests for a, b, c players and x, y, z boosters paid for it"

  • bobbybobby Posts: 150 ✭✭✭ Junior

    If you're disappointed by this scandal, wait till you hear that public school budgets are determined by local property taxes. The wealthy segregate themselves off into their own municipalities to hoard resources from poor communities of color; who get stuck with charters.

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