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These are all great stats, but you're overlooking the key ingredient to a successful vertical passing attack: You need a QB who can deliver the ball in stride to increase yards after catch. Fromm was not that QB, at least not this year. He missed too many wide open guys and in some cases, didn't survey the field enough to even find the wide open guy. He had DRob wide open in the first quarter of the LSU game and missed badly. Fromm seemed to force balls where he shouldn't -- how many times did we see him overthrow, throw behind or have his guys diving to dig the ball out of the dirt? On the flip-side, Burrow effortlessly did what great QB's are supposed to do. In what world a few years ago would anyone have ever guessed that Joe Burrow would outperform Jake Fromm? Seems like Burrow was coached up and Fromm maybe wasn't...but something with Fromm doesn't add up.
Good article and really let’s you appreciate the tough season Fromm has had to endure. I’m amazed he held our team together during the past 4 months with almost all of his good targets not playing. Great job Jake....you’re a true leader. Go Dawgs
It seems like more of a development issue than a recruiting issue to me. It stated right there in the article, LSU signed 5 top 150 WRs since 2016 as did UGA. We've got guys that were once considered elite WRs (D Rob, Bush, Webb...) that have not produced at the position as Georgia players. Meanwhile the LSU guy that did the most damage to us is a former 3 star.
To some extent you can mark up poor character choices to development too. If Pickens doesn't punch the tech DB and Holloman doesn't punch his girlfriend (yes, I realize the later is WAY worse) then we have those two guys against LSU and the WR corps looks much better.
I think we have/are getting the guys, we just need some better development and better injury/discipline luck and we'll be right there with the top dogs. That and Fromm working out of his junior slump over the off season...
while this article focuses on WR's, we didn't exactly burn up the woods throwing to TE's either. I suspect that we could use a little professional help in teaching folks to run routes and get open. Then perhaps you can make an honest opinion on whether Fromm is doing his job adequately.
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah . . . . excuses, excuses, excuses.
LSU was probably in a worse position than us 4 years ago and look at where they are now. We've recruited great players and had better recruiting classes than LSU over that time. Is looks to me like there's no development on offense. Get rid of Coley and get somebody who has new "spread" ideas but still respects the use of a pro style offense (oh wait, that's what LSU did).
How many times did you hear - lets used the TE more, get playmakers out in space more, Use Cook more? What part of the word "more" do they not understand because I don't see that it really ever changed much.
I'm tired of excuses - this is the same ol' UGA that we had under Richt. Can't win the big games!
Change it , make it better, coach em' up and get it done! Don't want to hear any more talk. Just do it!
Here it is folks. Laid all out with facts. This is the reason we had a very good season, and not a great one. Honestly... we might of overachieved as a whole on the year. We just took way to much attrition all at one time in this one spot. So chin up Dawgs, the sky ain't falling. Kirby knows the issue. Time to go get some dudes.
Good info. For some reason WR has been Georgia's achilles heel, just as QB has been LSU's for years. Hopefully Georgia can find a way to get over the WR hump as LSU did at QB.
PS - Yes, Burrow was there last year but didn't blossom until this year. Credit him, the OC, or both, but they finally got it all together. Hopefully Georgia can do the same one day.
Agree completely with zonadawg61 post. I like Fromm but he may have reached his ceiling. Compare his ability to extend plays with his feet to Burrows, Lawrence, Hurts & that guy at Ohio State. I watched a rerun of the LSU game. The first interception could have possibly been a TD had Fromm led the receiver correctly & it certainly would not have been a pick. On the 2nd pick the ball did not have enough mustard on it.
Can Fromm actually throw a football fifty yards? And the ball velocity seems sooo slow. The receivers have issues and so does Jake Fromm
Not trashing Fromm, but let's don't blame it ALL on the WR's. Fromm was off on a LOT of his throws...either behind, over or low. He's got some soul searching (and practice) to do this off-season.
Burrow's balls were on target, Fromm's weren't. You don't have to like it... I don't care, but it's the truth.
Thanks Jeff, our chickens came home to roost this season. We've under recruited, and under developed our WR corp for too long and this season we paid for those mistakes. yes, the early departures of Nauta, Hardman, etc hurt, but the death blow was the dismissal of JJ. A program like ours should never be so thin at any position like we are at WR.
When I watched the SECCG, it appeared, on several occasions, the LSU receivers were WIDE open due to scheme. There were crossing patterns, slants, etc, were their receiver wasn't even covered. They mixed it up too by including the TEs.
I completely understand that we took a loss at the receiver position this year, but NO roster is perfect. The article would suggest that we need 5 star players at every position 2-3 deep. Nobody team has that - not even Alabama with all their consecutive #1 classes.
Having said this, the injuries we sustained during the game were very impactful, and the lack of depth at the receiver position exposed us against LSU. But it should not have exposed us most of the season. We need to do better making adjustments to our game plan(s), strategies, and that falls on the coaches. Fromm too, for whatever reason, seems to have lost some of his accuracy compared to previous years.
The sky is not falling however, as some folk might think. Kirby's still a young coach and he is still learning. My confidence in him has not wavered.
You mean like the ball Fromm threw in the SC game that hit Simmons in the hands that turned into an interception that could have very well cost the Dawgs an undefeated season. Or, in the same game, the throw that was thrown to the correct spot but the receiver ran the wrong route and turned into an interception. Fromm wasn't perfect nor was Burrow. We'll get to see next year if a year's experience and physical deevelopment of Pickens and Dom if he's healthy makes a difference in Fromm. There are two years of experience when Fromm was one of the most accurate passers in college football that indicate an emphatic "YES"!
You can bring in three five stars at WR, it does no good if you have a one dimensional QB who is physically limited as a thrower. Three years of watching Fromm miss wide open downfield receivers. Even when he hits those plays the receiver has had to slow down or even come to a complete stop to wait on Fromm's pass to get to him.
Fromm has a lot of intangibles that make for a great QB but he doesn't have the physical abilities. He originally committed to Alabama. If he had kept that commitment, he would still be the backup. That's what he is. A good, emergency backup QB who did a good job of being a good, emergency backup QB while getting out of the way of two all time great RBs and a defense that regularly set him up with great field position.
In the second half of last year's SECCG Alabama created the book that teams now use on him. Make him throw into tight windows. Make him beat you over the top. He can't do it and therefore teams aren't made to pay for stacking the box against the run.
Maybe a spread oriented offense would suit him better. Tim Tebow didn't have the greatest arm in the world either but Florida was able to have a lethal passing game with him at QB. But Tebow had the threat of running to counteract a lot of defenses. That's not a part of Fromm's game, although he is actually a good runner when he needs to be, so maybe that wouldn't work either.