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@UGA_2019 I in no way want to discount your point of view. You are obviously coming from this with knowledge and a point of view that many on here don't share.
I don't necessarily think you're wrong.
But the real issue is what this is doing or could do to our economy and what is the value of keeping everything open vs having a two week or whatever quarantine.
The market is already scaring investors to death. If your 40-50 years old you will probably ride it out and get back on track....but what if your 65, 70, 75 years old. How much wealth is this generation, the generation with real money, going to lose because of this.
How many jobs will be lost because small businesses have to shut down because they can't stay open or can't receive product. Think of all the professions closing down for a couple of weeks will effect.
Unfortunately, most in America are just a pay check or two from being on the street.
I understand the issue you bring up concerning hospital beds, doctors and nurses. But the reality is, if the economy can keep moving, Americans are resourceful enough to come up with solutions to a shortage of beds, doctors or nurses.
And I certainly don't want to discount the death toll that not quarantining may cause. But is it worth keeping the economy going vs saving a few thousand lives? What is the worst case scenario with this virus?
I by no means want to sound callous or unconcerned......I'm very much concerned with human life.
But whether or not it's worth quarantining people is certainly a legitimate question.
That's the understated part of this; it's not about the folks who aren't at risk. They'll probably be fine. But you can give it to somebody who doesn't have the ability to just deal with it.
Similar concept to the anti-vaxx crowd. It's not just about you and your kid, but rather the kids around you that can't get the vaccine or are susceptible for whatever reason.
How come we never heard about Covid-17 or Covid- 18?
IF this thing is going to wipeout mankind or throw our country into a 1930s depression can it at least have the common decency to wait until UGA football wins the national title?
That is an excellent point
Im sure there are a number of actuarial mathematicians that are calculating lives versus the greater economic good (in relation to quarantines). I’m glad I don’t have to be the one to make that call, or the one who has to message that decision to the masses.
This might be the saddest thread I've read on here. The amount of misinformation and callousness is concerning.
Those are legitimate concerns you have there Tex. Could shutting down the world cause more harm than if we just let the virus run it's coarse? The Asian countries appear to be on the downhill slope of their run so you'd think they have a reasonable amount of data to work with. I almost wish we all could just get it over with. Like a Chicken Pox party when we were kids. I've pretty much resigned to the fact that I'll likely get it eventually. Especially where I work. I just hope it's mild and expect it likely will be since I don't have the co-morbidities associated with the most severe cases.
Yeah for most places we have passed containment and need to move to mitigation. It's likely the same amount of people will be infected but we need to delay as many cases as possible to prevent our healthcare system from being overburdened.
The number at the end is the year it started. 2019.
But is it worse than the flu?
I assure you that I don't want to come across as callous. And I apologize if it seems I am.
But honestly.......how many lives will be lost due to an economic collapse.....however short it is.
And quarantining communities for a couple of weeks will cause significant economic issues.
I'm certainly concerned with the virus.....but equally, if not more, concerned about the fall out.
I'm just ready for football.
People need to let go of the idea this will naturally abate in the warmer months. Pandemics rarely behave this way since no one has immunity to new viruses. It won't need the added advantage of cool, dry air and less UV exposure to thrive. We have no data to suggest its closest relative, SARS-COV-1 is a seasonal virus and we have strong evidence that its 2nd closest relative, MERS, is definitely a non-seasonal virus that thrives in hot regions. Australia is also in the middle of summer and is dealing with COVID-19 cases.
We have gutted our ability to respond to these types of outbreaks. The situation in the US has been handled incredibly poorly both in the short term and the long term. We should have been investing in public health infrastructure to prepare for this type of situation to protect people and the economy. At this point mitigating spread IS what's best for the economy. If we allow it to go unchecked things will just get worse all around.
To be clear this isn't an apocalyptic virus, but it has the ability to cause a lot of deaths, chronic damage to people with severe cases, and major disruption to people's lives.
That's a little misleading. The two countries that have tested the most had roughly a 2-3 month headstart in terms of initial cases and testing. Give it a couple weeks and that graph will look very different.
This is a good Joe Rogan podcast with Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease expert, about coronavirus if ya got the time...
Yes. Millions are not going to die as many have suggested. It's already on the downslide in China...the most populace nation on Earth with a questionable health care system. Only a few thousand deaths...not to be callous, but that is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Is it serious? Absolutely. Should it be causing world-wide panic and upheaval? Absolutely no.
He hasn’t brought any facts, or knowledge to this discussion. He’s brought “ostrich” insults and “opinions” that were prepared by medical professionals whose job involved building worst case scenario models intended to influence public funding.
He posts a source saying 1 in 10 require the ICU and then in the next post says it has infected far more people than realized because we aren’t testing enough people. If true we aren’t testing enough people, then that sort of blows the fact about 1 in 10 completely out of the water.
One night of tornadoes in Tennessee still has a higher death toll than Covid 19 in the entire US.
As far as we know....
Why did Ed Aschoff die? Pneumonia caused by an underlying respiratory illness. Has his real cause of death ever been pin pointed? Turns out he had stage 4 non-hodgkins, but he could have been infected with a virus at the same time.