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You're missing the larger points.
IMO, this it's about hypocrisy and double standards. It's irrelevant whether CNN makes a T-Shirt or whether Gundy would wear it. It's the hypocritical response that matters. I was simply pointing out the double standard with respect to Kaepernick wearing a Marxist T-Shirt and it being fine, but national outrage is reached when a coach wears pro conservative apparel. Lastly, this is about falling in line with the political views and demands of those who are raising their voices the loudest. Is "Cancel Culture" really going to help lift up those who are at the lower end of the economic ladder? Doubtful.
I get it. "Cancel Culture" is ruining the opportunity to actually talk about things with some civility, but neither Gundy nor Dabo have been officially reprimanded from their individual schools. They may have irritated their fanbases, but they still hold a lot of power (especially those represented by Jimmy Sexton) and are not going ever have more the a slap on the wrist.
The irony is that us getting mad about people getting mad is hypocritical.
Back on topic, a bad look for Dabo. The troll said it best.
I think a better comp to OAN than CNN is TYT, but I agree with your point
Good call on TYT. I agree, better comparison.
It isn't about wearing conservative or liberal apparel. It is about wearing aparel that those around him view as extreme. Wearing a Fox News or a CNN shirt would indicate one's politics, but it wouldn't be considered extreme.
I believe Gundy has every right to wear whatever shirt he wants - it is his first amendment right. Others also have a right to react to whatever shirt he wears in whatever way they want.
No one is talking about allowed or not allowed so first amendment rights aren't in question. What is in question is Gundy's values as perceived by those around him when he wears a shirt that in their opinion, represents a dismissal of the value of their life.
I think in the end, Gundy is learning a valuable lesson, not about political correctness, but about different perspectives around him and how they experience the world differently. That is something all of us have to do whether we actually or secretly where an OAN or BLM shirt. We have been inflamed into being divided and we need to focus more on understanding each other. I don't care if Gundy's actions are hyped up by the media looking for a story, I do care that understanding has increased for both Gundy and his players as a result of this incident.
Didn’t Kaepernick lose his livelihood? Arguing against yourself much?
Casanova,
I think you are seeing things a bit one-sided. Let me explain.
I can say that Robert E Lee was a brilliant general and a gentleman in how he conducted himself without saying that I supported the confederacy or slavery.
I can say that Che Guavara represents a counterculture to the status quo and a voice raising awareness about poverty and hunger without saying that I support marxism.
I personally am fine with anyone wearing a shirt with Robert E Lee or Che Guavara on it. I am not fine personally with anyone saying (or wearing a shirt saying) they support slavery or marxism. I think we all need to give each other a bit of understanding and not be so quick to see ill intent in those who have different political views. Ironically, we have so denigrated opposing views as being bad that we are in danger of sabotaging our own democracy, which is founded upon the belief that the people can freely express their differing views.
From Senator Blutarsky.
I do agree with this thread and some points being made, the hypocrisy is strong. People need to get over slavery but it’s important to celebrate my culture and southern pride. That’s history and don’t try to erase it.
Its 2020 gents, time to be more open minded to change, or get left behind. It’s that simple...
The entire argument is based on "hurting the right people, not my people"
I mean....praising communist killers that murdered people or their beliefs (gays, etc) doesn’t help.
Hes not a spotless martyr. He brought attention to a good cause but also went beyond that and delved into his own prejudices along the way. You can agree with portions of someone’s argument without rubber stamping every move they make and being forced into agreeing with them about everything they do.
Never said that he was, and personally don’t give a da.mn if he ever plays another down in NFL. The NFL is not obligated to employ him and even if they do, it doesn’t solve anything that matters. He’s not playing because his talent isn’t enough to mask the distraction, not any different from a Tim Tebow. He was on his way out before he took a knee.
That said, the man knelt, peacefully, after consulting with a former teammate who served and advised that kneeling would be more respectful. Besides, where else in the history of mankind is kneeling considered a disrespect? Only in America when a narrative is hijacked. “Get those bastards off the field...”. And here we are today. Still he lost his livelihood for expressing himself. So if Gundy lost his, what’s the difference? The argument from that guy who posted here is a weak one, but not surprised.
We currently have a high profile government official with a history of praising communists and dictators that kill their own people.
Kap was dumb and wore socks depicting cops as pigs which was inarguably counterproductive to his cause. He never said all cops are pigs and killers.
That’s the problem with symbols. Be it pig socks, Che t-shirts, OAN t-shirts, or Gator t-shirts (shudder), they don’t do nuance well.