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Happy Fourth, Erbody...
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Here's wishing the DNation a happy, safe, glorious 4th of July! Thankful for our wonderful country and our wonderful freedoms. And thankful for the Dawgs!
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Happy 4th of July y'all. I love this country of ours. STILL (to me) the GREATEST place on earth. PS - GO DAWGS!!!
Happy Fourth, all! Thanks to all of you who have served our country! Go Dawgs!
Happy 4th Dawgs!
2 DVs for this? Jeez, hope it was either fat finger scrolling or they can KMA!!
Happy and a Safe Independence Day celebration for all!!
Anybody who downvoted a shoutout in celebration of July 4th is a very sad person and I feel sorry for them. We live in the greatest nation on earth with citizens having more freedom and prosperity than any other nation. Is our nation perfect? No, but it a far sight better than any other country I am aware of. God bless America!
FREDERICK DOUGLASS
"What to the **** is the Fourth of July?"
"…Fellow-citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to speak here to-day? What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? and am I, therefore, called upon to bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting from your independence to us?"
I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us.
"...Would to God, both for your sakes and ours, that an affirmative answer could be truthfully returned to these questions! Then would my task be light, and my burden easy and delightful. For who is there so cold, that a nation’s sympathy could not warm him? Who so obdurate and dead to the claims of gratitude, that would not thankfully acknowledge such priceless benefits? Who so stolid and selfish, that would not give his voice to swell the hallelujahs of a nation’s jubilee, when the chains of servitude had been torn from his limbs? I am not that man. In a case like that, the dumb might eloquently speak, and the 'lame man leap as an hart.'
But such is not the state of the case. I say it with a sad sense of the disparity between us. I am not included within the pale of glorious anniversary! Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between us. The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice, are not enjoyed in common. The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by me. The sunlight that brought light and healing to you, has brought stripes and death to me. This Fourth July is yours, not mine. You may rejoice, I must mourn..."
—Frederick Douglass, July 5, 1852
Not sure how to fix problems that occurred in 1852? Only try to learn from the past and make 2020 and on better for everyone.
Let's enjoy our Independence Day this year. Be proud Americans and proud Dawg fans.
Right now there are people marching and protesting who want to end this Holiday!
The thing is this is not a 1852 problem. It's a now problem. Many Americans do not feel like we are included when you say Independence Day because we were not included in its indoctrination. No, the practice of slavery as it was stated in that time is not being implemented, but the fact that many Americans still do not enjoy the same freedoms as their "counterparts" should alarm anybody who considers themselves a real American. Yes, we have to have discussions in order to "fix" the problem (I say fix in quotes because the system in practice today was and is designed to do just what it has been doing) and this is why I put Mr. Douglass' speech up.
Again, in order for ALL AMERICANS to celebrate this holiday would mean it would be something for ALL AMERICANS to be included in, and this was not so in its indoctrination. While many celebrate the freedoms and liberties that the holiday represents for a select group, there are Americans in this country who do not have the same privileges mentioned. You can celebrate if you want, but remember this while you watch the fireworks in your respective cities and towns. Even those who served in EVERY war that America has been in did not come home to a hero's welcome. Some of these Americans were beaten, harrassed, and killed for proudly donning the uniforms of military service.
Chris Rock (I think) talked about this before. July 4 is white peoples Independence Day. Black folk were still enslaved at the time, so what are they supposed to celebrate exactly.
makes sense to me. Fireworks and cookouts are great, but we still got work to do
And another Thank You for your service!! God Bless You!!
Happy 4th to you and all of DN
Celebrating the 4th is a celebration of the legal foundation that allowed our country to become what it is today and the possibilities for tomorrow. Because of that foundation, all people, not just a select group of people, can celebrate the privileges and freedoms available to all. Slavery no longer exists because of our legal foundation and the men and women who sacrificed to make us a more perfect union. We cannot be responsible for unfortunate history beyond our control due to actions of others. We are all born into different settings with different attributes and skill sets (having nothing to do with discriminatory societal freedoms and liberties) that lead to different life outcomes.
I bless God even if I did not have the height or speed to be a college running back.
Well stated BobL. We cannot beat ourselves up about what happened before any of us were born but we can learn from history and continue to make the US even better.