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That's the $50 mil question...
Do you trade for a missing piece, when at any point the season may not finish?
I will be surprised if many teams are willing to move prospects this year, especially the Braves, for a rental.
Hopefully Hamels comes back. That's probably a vain hope.
I see your point, and I share your hesitation. I would only make a move that gives the team control of the pitcher beyond this season unless it's something unusual where we're close to having a contender and the price is reasonable. Ideally I always want multi years unless it's a situation where we have young guys coming up. Right now it looks questionable whether any of these young kids will be big league starters next year. We have Fried, then chaos.
Braves are still fairly loaded with P prospects. The thing is, the way the landscape changes in MLB every year, their names are often different than you might expect. Prior to the start of this season, 5 of our top 10 minor league prospects were pitchers. All except Davidson (24) are just 22 years old.
#3 RHP Ian Anderson (1st round pick in 2016. Went 8-7 last year with a 3.38 ERA splitting time between AA & AAA. 6'3". 95 MPH fastball with incredible extension. Plus change and curve.)
#5 RHP Bryse Wilson (4th round pick in 2016. Made his MLB debut in 2018. Went 10-7 with a 3.42 ERA at Gwinnett last year. 6'2". 95 MPH fastball. Plus change and slider.)
#7 LHP Kyle Muller (2nd round pick in 2016. Went 7-6 with a 3.14 ERA in AA last year. 6'6". 97 MPH fastball. Big 2-8 curveball.)
#9 LHP Tucker Davidson (19th round pick in 2016. Went 7-6 with a 2.03 ERA in AA last year. 6'2". 98 MPH fastball, change and slider.)
#10 LHP Jared Shuster (1st round pick in 2020. In a Covid-shortened season, struck out 43 batters in 26 IP for Wake Forest and recorded a 0.949 WHIP. 6'3". 95 MPH fastball. Plus change and curve.)
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In addition to those guys, 7 of the next 10 prospects (i.e. 12 of our top 20 total) are pitchers. Most of these guys won't get much of a look during this Covid-shortened season, but the next couple of years should be fun to watch as each one gets called up.
I forgot about Wilson, although i don't have a ton of optimism he will work out due to lack of good secondary offerings. And when you say "loaded".... Ian Anderson is the only grade 60 prospect all the rest are 50s, which are average. I've seen and forgotten about a dozen 50 grade pitching prospects we have seen fail in Atlanta the last 5 years.... If Ian Anderson doesn't work out we are in trouble. I really like Kyle Mueller though, and haven't ever seen Davidson. So fingers crossed we find some actual major league starters out of this crop.
Fair enough. I've also seen 60's who didn't pan out, so having a truckload of 50's gives me some hope.
I see some potential, but I don't have high confidence in any of them. I was sold on Soroka from the first time I saw him pitch, I saw Fried as having potential, but he's exceeding my expectations right now.
Also, I got to spend some time with the Braves coaches this spring and they are still very high on Wilson. Who knows, we'll see. Just FYI.
I like Anderson, not like I did Soroka, but similar to how I saw Fried a few years back. I get a different feel for Wilson each time I watch him pitch.
Soroka and Fried are already stars. They've shown what they can do and (barring injury or off-field issues) will only get better. At this point nobody knows how the guys on my list will pan out. Your confidence level, and mine, are irrelevant. Frankly even the Braves' brass can't know for sure. But we shall see. I look forward to the call ups.
I give you big credit for not carrying over other debates to this thread, it speaks well for you.
Cane has paid his dues and built up a sizable bank of goodwill on the forum.
Just not enough of a starting rotation. It also seems Inciarte is a lost cause, and Riley is a black hole in the lineup. It’s time to call up Cristian Pache.
I Like I said, it's a good sign when a poster is big enough to not carry some petty beef around from thread to thread, I put a premium on that stuff.
Yes. I was also trying to call attention to the importance of paying one's dues, and the value of building up goodwill with others.
Count me out of the boys club stuff. I'll post and others can read or not, it's not complicated to me.