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What the 2021 NFL Draft first round taught us about Georgia football
What the 2021 NFL Draft first round taught us about Georgia football
The first round of the 2021 NFL Draft is complete. Eric Stokes was the only Georgia Bulldog taken but there were a number of ways the night impacted the Georgia football program.
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To say Georgia isn’t developing players isn’t 100% true. The bigger underlying matter that is in question is why are these UGA players leaving so soon while Bama gets them to come back for their senior year?
jones, smith, Harris, and Leatherwood all returned for their senior year.
Also, in case you’re keeping score: Florida had 2 and Kentucky had one taken before Georgia had a player taken in the first round.
Very good point. Extremely good point!
It seems obvious that many of the players who've left Georgia for the NFL would have benefitted in the draft and been of help to the Dawgs had they decided to stay another year in college. Leaving too early is a losing proposition.
Go, Dawgs!Stay, Dawgs!
UGA has a player development problem. Last night five schools had multiple first round players including Northwestern, but not UGA.
If you look at the primary programs we're competing with: Bama, LSU, OSU & Clemson and just go back to 2017 here is the first round pick breakout:
Bama- 21
OSU- 11
LSU- 10
Clemson 9-
UGA- 6
We're last in top 5 picks, top 10 picks. Players are coming in as elite prospects and leaving and draftable but not elite draft picks. WE've had two five stars get drafted in the first round (Wilson & Michel), two four stars (Thomas & Smith) & Two 3 stars (Baker & Stokes).
At some point your best prospects need to become among the best players in the draft or you're never gonna win a title.
The difference why more players do not leave early from UA than UGA is Saban. He sits down with each player and their families and presents which round they will probably be drafted. Saban presents this as a business decision. His position is if you are not a first rounder you should return with a few exceptions. Within their program it seems to be pretty common knowledge what he advises each player. The other players then watch the draft and see what happens. Saban’s advice has been spot on. Many of the players leave millions of dollars on the table.
Now I sure Kirby does the same thing. With the number of players leaving who we believe should have returned, it seems to indicate one of two things. The first is the players are not listening to Kirby and either do not believe or trust his assessment. The second is there are issues about the program. The players don’t think they will develop in a significant way to improve their draft position or they are no longer having fun.
Kirby is right about the perception of player development, recruiting and the draft. All of these are linked. The question to be asked remains - evaluation recruiting development How is Kirby doing?
Well, it's finally nice that Round 1 is over and we can stop talking about some of our... controversial QBs. Now let's see where was Jamie? Not in Top 3 like he was supposed to. Not 4th or 5th... LOL, enough of that.
I mean, I don't think "disastrous" would've been an accurate representation. I mean, 5 of the players were QBs. Clemson had their QB + 1 one other player. Many other programs had just 1 like mentioned. VT had 2 and that doesn't mean anything, nor SC having a #8 pick nor Florida having 2 picks. I don't think we'll see any major changes in recruiting positions based on this.
In some ways, Bama having 6 players go first round has some advantages. First off, it shows how much talent they had last year and how we weren't likely to get "within 1 play" of beating them. Next, it means that those players are gone now. I'm not saying that Bama's "cupboard is empty" but maybe it'll decrease their invincibility by a bit. It DOES, however, irritate me that they had TWO of the best WRs in the country while we struggle to have one heathy star WR.
Can't read page 73 of a 200 page book and decide if it should win a Pulitzer...
R E L A X a bit, maybe, and take a broader view. The draft is a crazy-subjective measure of development. One season - or just a couple of games - can move a kid up or down 2 rounds. ND State did not "develop" T. Lance. Just about everything fell right for him. BYU did not "develop" Wilson - he had one GREAT year. Do you think FLA "developed" Pitts, or is he just a freak?
WAY TO MANY VARIABLES (injury, work ethic, genetics, home life, academics, girlfriends, sanity...) factor into the draft, many of which a program has no control over.
I would also add that the way two of our most recent first-round picks have handled their success/money hurts their teammates. It's all a part of it. "Development" is just another variable and it just happens to be the one you can control.
The consistent feedback from scouts concerning the players that returned & those that left early was that they had not yet developed NFL size & strength. With roster limits, salary caps & a win now mentality, teams can't afford project players in the first couple of rounds unless a player shows something special before draft day. Stokes' insane 40 time did it for him. The rest will have to wait & fight this summer for a foster spot.
The question for Kirby & the Dawgs is what can be done to strengthen the training program? Why are guys choosing to leave early vs. staying in Athens to build the size & strength needed to move up in the draft. Answer these questions & the Dawgs will hoist more championship trophies & see more players chosen on day one of the draft. With the guys returning, if a few more had decided to stay, the 2021 season & 2022 draft would have been historic occasions.
There is a little bit of truth in the two lines of thinking IMO as I read through the comments. the first that UGA isn't "coaching them up" for short and the other is that "the cream will find a way to rise to the top" no matter who is coaching them.
Stokes was a 3 star at best and now he's a 1st round pick so kudos to whomever coached him and then there are the bevy of players who come ito UGA as 5 stars or high 4 stars who seem to underachieve and fall to the late rounds of the Draft.
If I'm not mistaken UGA has recruited on par with BAMA with 5 and 4 star players the past few years, but something seems to be missing. I guess, if someone wanted to, they could do some research and find out how many 3-4 star recruits BAMA puts in the League versus UGA or a Clemson or OHio St. That would be telling IMO.
Then look at the 5 stars that each team has had recently and follow their paths and see how they ended up as draft picks. Researching these two things would seem to me to either put an end to any negativity towards the coaching staff not "coaching them up" or call it into question even more.
There you go CR no charge. Would make a great read.
A third possible explanation is that Georgia hasn't won a national championship yet under Smart. I have to believe that goes a long way - a player having the sense that if he stays, there's a strong chance he'll go out as a champion. It's fair to assume that most of these elite recruits come out of high school imagining themselves as future NFL stars. And once they become eligible to pursue that, I would think their needs to be some tangible reward on the table to get them to stay another year. Of course, this won't apply to every single elite recruit, and I don't presume to know what any given one of them thinks or goes through in their decision process. But it's a reasonable theory, I think.
Coaches are like players, in that they have to grow into their role in order to become elite. It doesn't happen automatically. Smart has been at it for a few years now, and the signs of his development are there. In the meantime, though, it sure would have made things a lot easier and sped the process along to have had some of those who left early stay another year. I still think he'll get there, and I think once that dam breaks we'll be seeing more of these elite recruits stay for another year (if they didn't win it all in their junior year).
We discussed this on another thread a while ago and discovered that Bama has as many players declaring early as us. There is a perception that Bama is better at hanging on to Seniors, but it's not entirely factual.
This is evidence that Saban is just on a different level than the rest of the NCAA...and it's not even close. And it's not likely to change as long as he's still coaching. We might be able to close the gap a bit (and we have at recruiting HS players)...but Bama is always going to put a bunch of people in the first round of the draft.
As many of the commenters below have noted, UGA has fallen behind in getting the cream of their crop to the top of the pile. Bama is simply the best at doing that. Many factors go into the draft decision and timing. Development, coaching, natural ability, athleticism, and other intangible factors affect a player's draft outcome.
If you go back to 2017 when the DAWGS had Chubb and Michel come back for their senior season, it propelled us to playing for a Natty. One could easily argue that it also helped the draft stock of those two players the following year. On the flip side, you have Fromm making a very questionable decision to leave and ends up not being drafted until the 5th round. Should he have played another year? Did 1st round pick Justin Field's controversy force him out the door?
The bottom line questions remain: are Kirby and staff doing enough to coach, develop, and advise these elite players? Does it really matter to the success of the DAWGS winning National Championships ???
The issue, though, is that we've had more guys leaving early who weren't (yet) NFL-caliber. As I touched on below, I do think some of that has to do with Smart evolving as a coach and learning how to get the most out of his team. Again, I think he's on the right track, and it just takes time. He didn't get to spend his first years as a HC honing his craft at some directional school where his missteps would go largely unnoticed.
This past off-season we saw a positive change in a number of draft-eligible contributers deciding to stay. If I recall, the first one to announce it was Daniels, which I think bodes well for the general direction of the program; his involvement, and the boost to the offense that it brings, is reflective of Smart's development as a coach. Only time will tell if it's sustained, but I do see it as cause for optimism.
That is a good point. Bama's early departures are generally early round guys. Ours (such as Hollyfield and Fromm) tend to be late round guys.
reddwag without doing a lot of research about 3 and 4 stars going to the league from Bama compared to UGA, in this draft in the first round they had one 3 star (Jones) and two 4 stars (Waddle, Smith). The other three who were drafted in the first round were 5 stars.