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  • KeithsaxonKeithsaxon Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    OTR is 11 hrs driving with a 10 hr break called 11/14 rule. Local drivers can work longer hours by being on the clock.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • KeithsaxonKeithsaxon Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yea, seems like every time there’s a bad accident involving big trucks they add new regulations. The actions of a few affects the rest of us!

  • Filo_BettoFilo_Betto Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The fix to the "mess" is actually happening and it just proves my point. The EPA has relaxed fuel blend mandates so more gas can get out quickly. I'm sure there are federal restrictions on additional pipelines to service the east coast from Texas. My guess is Colonial is more of a monopoly almost acting as a public utility. Competition and redundancy would prevent a single pipeline failure from being catastrophic.

    Government regulations are often the source of the problems that liberals blame on business. Then liberals clamor for the same government to come and fix the problem it created.

  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2021

    Keith Saxon, Sixty hours in seven or seventy hours in eight as I recall it.

    Yalemeister: I wouldn't be so quick to criticize CPL for not doing it's job. All large companies invest heavily in Cyber protection. Can they block all attempts? No

    And I would match any private sector engineer against a public-sector beaurocrat. Look, private-public relationships exists for many situations, including cyber security.

    In my life, I've seen the '70s gas shortage thru the eyes of a gasoline attendant at a company-owned gas station on the Illinois Tollway. And get this: We were represented employees. Crazy. I was also employed as an Accountant, Auditor, Asst. Terminal Mgr. (Fairfax, Va. light oil terminal) and finally, nine years as a retail mgr. -- company owned service stations in the Atlanta area. I've seen it all.

    After returning to college, I went on to work as a corporate Accountant for one of those "majors". And, speaking of majors, it was Exxon, Amoco, Texaco, Chevron, as I recall it, that made it all possible. In the 1950's all gasoline delivered to east coast hubs was handled by tankers and barges -- a longer and less efficient way to handle the growing demand for gasoline. But that's all we had.

    Enter the dream: creating one of the greatest engineering and construction marvels. The Colonial pipeline. Far safer than barge due to the fact that leaks or spills are easier to control on land, than on the water. Lowered transportation costs and led to more reliable deliveries. When everything was delivered by barge, you had numerous delays and supply disruptions due to weather, especially during hurricane season.

    Safety, reduced costs, and greater reliability. This was a huge accomplishment. Even after the pipeline was built, companies still had to spend millions more just to fill up the pipelines before one drop of gasoline was loaded onto a tanker truck. Think about it: two pipelines about 2000-2500 miles long and about 28" in diameter. Measured in barrels (42 us gallons) and known as linefill, there were additional costs for planning, zoning, and logistics to build the numerous storage and loading facilities: Doraville, Fairfax, Greensboro (?), and Richmond, to name a few.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Incredible, nearly everything you've said is wrong. Points for imagination though.

  • KeithsaxonKeithsaxon Posts: 689 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yea,local drivers can work as many hours as they want to. They can only drive for 11 hours then must take a 10 hour break before driving again. But they can work unlimited hours in the week as long as they are on the clock. That’s who would be delivering the fuel to the public. OTR drivers can only work 70 in a week without a 34 hour restart!

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