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Don’t disagree. Costs have definitely gotten out of hand.
Yup, lowering the cost of higher education is one of the best ways to fight back against the coastal elites
@Bdw3184 I agree with a lot of your concerns, but the genies are out, so it's really a question of how to interpret the ruling and rules. That's not going to be easy. Those who figure it out quickly will be long term winners. Again, the NCAA tried to "fix" this already. The SCOTUS unanimously shot them down.
Let me give you a hypothetical situation to illustrate. Let's say that a group of Dawg supporters band together to advertise to their clients via their favorite pastime. We will throw in car dealerships, farm equipment dealerships, restaurants, stores, construction companies, medical practices, veterinary practices, law offices, TV/media stations, and anybody else you want to throw in to the mix. This powerful group of UGA alums budgets 34 million per year for licensing. For participating you get to use the NIL of our players within the specified parameters negotiated. So your business throws in a few hundred thousand because you want to advertise at your car dealership. So, let's divide 34MM by 85 scholarships. How much to we come up with per player? $400,000 per student per year. Obviously, I was making all of that up and I didn't intend it to be realistic, but you get the idea. In reality, I could see them paying based on HS rankings for TFs because that gives the best indication of what they might do. As the players are at school, I could see the companies willing to pay more for greater accomplishments, and I could see it being statistically based.
You've heard about the guy who was stuck on making buggy whips 100 years ago, or the guy who was making landline telephones 15 years ago? We have to realize when things change, or we will become equally obsolete and bankrupt. Things have changed in CFB. Yes, it might be worse than the wild west at this point.
Ivy League is 100% need based. And every team uses the same application for financial aid.
However, recruited athletes get admissions privilege. Athletes have to be outstanding students but not quite at the level of regular students.
If you are a FCS level athlete, terrific student and come from a family with below avg financial means…Ivy league is an awesome opportunity. Because most or all will be paid for. And the internship opportunities are incredible.
Be careful when we bring in federal govt not confident that they can actually fix anything.
He was good at football, coach needed him to play, he got passed along to college coach. College coach also needed him to play.
The only thing that has changed is students on scholarship can now make a business contract. And get paid. They could have had this years ago if they taken it to court. We have sent this for a season now. Nothing that matters has changed.
A significant amount of things have changed. I don’t remember anyone suggesting that players shouldn’t be compensated for NIL.
But much of this compensation isn’t from NIL.
Plus this thread is about how the Presidents should make it more about education.
Texas A&M is not gonna b an 8-4 Football team for a while after this year but admittedly that SEC West is brutal so if can u throw enough $$$ at a problem.................................
How should universities make it more about educating athletes? Athletes have everything they need to succeed in the classroom, and more resources available than any regular student has.
You listed 7 bullet points on your OP of what universities need to do. Universities are already doing these things. Just trying to understand your post since universities are already doing what you’re asking for.
My post isn’t confusing. You don’t agree with it and that’s OK. But I read through it again and stand by it.
Make rules that benefit the over 18,000 and not the 270. Get boosters out of paying players and devise a better transfer policy.
If players don’t like rules then don’t play college football.
My entire point being that university presidents can fix this crap
Agree with the foundation your opinion rests on but not so much the opinion itself.
The reason we are here today is due to the NCAA's inability to accept change and change their operating model to regain a modicum of control. In doing so, they have given way too much power to outside actors, legally.
Students weren't even allowed to have outside jobs. Many students at less lucrative institutions were going hungry and, at a few, homeless.
This is even further compounded when many of these students are plucked from very very rough areas and their families barely keep the lights on. We've all seen more than our fair share of stories of "rags to riches".
In the past, students were enticed to leave school, before getting a degree and with a horrible outlook in the NFL, for the change at a couple hundred thousand.
Add in the facilities arms race and you have a recipe for this current state of affairs
Now, maybe there is an end in sight... albeit with a lot more oversight than the NCAA is currently undertaking
I think the NIL's should continue but it should be expected that there is a baseline stipend for everyone (maybe done by a team sponsorship), a small % of each deal should go to a transparent team fund to help out all athlete's who might need some money and such (because we all know D1 football funds all the athletics in the school) and a mandatory financial literacy class and what not.
At the end of the day, student is a term used loosely due to the amount of time they put in.
There's a reason many of the star athletes can't have harder majors because they don't have the time for classes or the workload. That's not a "student-first" program if you ask me
You listed 7 bullet points on your OP of what universities need to do. Universities are already doing these things. Just trying to understand your post since universities are already doing what you’re asking for.
Well, No they are NOT doing theses things. It is all or nothing and dabbling in this is only a face value venture.
@texdawg has it labeled correctly and they would be wise to do all of it.
If the University Presidents don't do something and a tragic event (easy to figure out) occurs, then there will be Federal procedures enacted and Senate committees.
I am not sure everyone fully understands what happens when you endow young student-athletes with an enormous amount of spending money - many of them think an "investment vehicle" is a Cadillac Escalade, not a buying an ownership stake in a business! These are huge NFL problems that surface with the rookies, they are 21-22 years old, not 17 freshly out of High School!
Mind Boggling!
To think this is an easy fix, is wrong and to think that the coaches don't want the best talent, no matter how much they cost, is also wrong. Who has the power and who has the ability to put the best team on campus, without too much of "IT" -- tough decision, but if they wait, it could ruin the game!
It needs to be addressed now, before it is too late! @Bdw3184 understands it, you should read his "soap box" eulogy, I hope our President sees it!!
I'm a little late to the party... but A-men Tex. I'm ready for some people to start growing a pair and tell these "player rights" grifters to get bent. I'm ready for a lot of "leaders" to start growing a pair in many facets of life.
Great post. You bring up many good points. Which is why I said that part of the expectations on the universities is to make sure that any other needs are addressed.
For the most part, many of the areas of concern you brought up have been addressed. Coaches are now limited on how much they can spend with players. There is more than enough time for studies. Not much time for anything else.
Also, players financial needs, while at school, have been addressed for the most part. They do have more money available, even before NIL, and they have food cards that can be used on the weekends.
The stories you share about poverty and homelessness with athletes, while on campus, is all valid, but most of that is in the past and has been addressed. At least it has for football and basketball players.
The other athletes on campus are still struggling to a certain degree because of partial scholarships and far less financial support. Which is why I suggested, if college football and basketball is actually making as much money as many believe, then the excess could be used at increasing scholarship amounts for the other athletes on campus.
I don’t pretend to have the answers, but nothing about this current model feels right.
I won’t say names or schools but three years ago I helped one of our players receive a scholarship to an FBS school. He was recruited by a few schools, but when it was all said and done, only one FBS and one FCS had a commitable offer. He was at that school for 2 1/2 years playing sparingly. He has just entered the transfer portal and walked away from a scholarship and certain graduation. He didn’t ask my advice before entering the portal but now wants me to help him find a new school. It is very unlikely he’ll find one and his single mom will not be able to help him pay for college. He was 4 semesters from graduating from an outstanding academic school. And it’s unlikely he’ll graduate now. But we are trying.
The system is broken. It is currently providing fewer scholarship opportunities than it did in the past and almost encouraging kids to walk away from opportunities they currently have.