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A possible answer or the beginning of the end....

donniem

Just read an article on USA Today describing the agreement between the NCAA and the power 5 conferences on how schools can pay athletes. Seems there will be a salary cap of some sort - $20 million I think it might be. Appears the NCAA will foot a lot of the cost for the first 10 years and then the $ would come from payments to the school from conferences and bowl games and TV revenues. Hmmm.

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pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750402#Comment_750402

So all student athletes get an equal cut of the conference revenue?

MarkBoknecht

@dawgnms I disagree. IMO this agreement is an extension of the television contracts for football and basketball. And to a lesser extent baseball.

You suggest all athletes get paid the same. But they're not the same.

pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750406#Comment_750406

Paying all athletes the same is just one step away from not paying them at all, just like before. Until recently, athletes didn't get paid. They got a scholarship, room, board, and maybe a small monthly stipend. They all got the same thing regardless if they were the starting Heisman winning QB or a freshman on the women's equestrian team. Divvying up the collective money equally would be back to the same problem. Football and basketball players making all the money yet they are reimbursed the same as the swimmers, bowlers, and golfers.

donniem

Some (very few) minor sport athletes are doing well in the NIL world. The gymnast from LSU is apparently raking in cash. Until recently, women's BB didn't seem to generate the same interest as men's but that may be changing. I, too, wonder how Title IX will fit into all of this. Seems like a mess in the making.

Wtk

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750365#Comment_750365

if they pay football/basketball players, one lawsuit and everybody gets paid. I am suprised the schools got involved. Even if the schools pay them, an indvidual can too.

BEACHDAWG

Nah, but some support. Trickle down economics.

CigarDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750438#Comment_750438

"Trickle Down" is not an actual economic model, it was a derogatory term coined by the press during the Reagan years. It is not an actual economic theory or hermeneutic of capitalism. That hack Bill Maher made it part of his act during that time as well.

dawgnms

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750404#Comment_750404

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750406#Comment_750406

Show where the word equal or paid the same was used in my post? To be specific let me say that the Conference gives the schools the $$$$ to decide what percent goes where and to whom. The athelete can also do thier own NIL deal locally seperate from anything that has to with the big pool of money from TV rights. But all should get a piece of the pie.

pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750441#Comment_750441

I apologize, wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I believe the issue is do they all get an equal amount regardless of sport (the diving team gets the same as the football team) or should it be based on revenue generated by the individual sport where the starting QB gets the most and the field hockey teams gets almost nothing.

Bum

Let the market and individual contracts decide the outcome from here. If central planning wins out, even at the school admin level, this will result in endless lawsuits. (Talk about waste of tax dollars)

A school president or even an AD doesn’t have time to keep up with individual values of athletes.

pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750446#Comment_750446

Are you talking about collectives or NIL? That gymnast at LSU makes a ton on NIL…mostly not because she is an athlete, but because she's basically selling her body. Good for her, I guess. But as an athlete, her cut from LSU's collective should be minimal because LSU gymnastics probably doesn't generate a lot of money.

JimWallace

The title of this thread pretty much sums it up.

What a mess!

My guess is it will get worse, more litigious, and more corrupt, but I hope I'm wrong.

Go, Dawgs!

pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750448#Comment_750448

Yep. Rashade suing UF and Napier is a bad sign for football.

MarkBoknecht

@dawgnms No, you didnt use equal or paid the same. What you did say was "...should be entire conference revenue to cover all sports". And I disagree with that.

You didn't say paid the same, but you definitely implied equal, as-in "all sports ".

There are 29 sub-classifcations of sports. At UGA and most major college, the big five are football, basketball, baseball, soccer, and softball. Other sports include swimming and diving, tennis, women's equestrian, track and field, golf, and cross country.

It's you're description of all sports I take exception to. You want football and basketball revenue to pay members of the dive team? Really?

donniem

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/750454#Comment_750454

Don't SEC schools get money from TV which covers softball, track and field, cross country? If so, why shouldn't they get some benefit from their participation? At least in proportion to their viewership or something along those lines?

Title IX is going to be a "thorn" in there somewhere, I think.