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What to expect from the 8 Georgia football summer enrollees

SystemSystem Posts: 10,728 admin
edited May 29 in Article commenting
imageWhat to expect from the 8 Georgia football summer enrollees

ATHENS — The Georgia football roster got another influx of talent this week, as the summer enrollees have now joined the team in Athens.

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    BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    UGAWire was counting kicker Charlie Ham and long snapper Beau Gardner. I believe both of them are walk-on transfers. Most outlets count only scholarship transfers.

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    CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm skeptical that Nasir Johnson will get many reps as a freshman, with Brinson, Stackhouse, Jarrett, Hall, McLeod and possibly Jordan Thomas ahead of him in the rotation.

    But I do like that we have Nazir and a Nasir now!

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 29

    Good article to add. The 2 "unaccounted for" TP adds are a kickoff specialist and a long snapper. In the eyes of Dawgnation reporters may not warrant an announcement or article here. Both probably Hope Scholarships additions. I suspect Pope is a Hope scholarship add as well. At least until next recruiting cycle refreshes the scholarship count after TP and graduation.

    @CandlerPark didn't see your response when I posted this.

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It is a roll of the dice to expect anything beyond rotation or special teams from most incoming freshmen. Every year we have seen 1 or 2 , usually high ranking freshmen, distinguish themselves before the season and carve out a bigger role. Nice to wish for more but the odds are not good that there will be more.

    That being said, recently there was an article on Dawgnation about Johnson that was very flattering. Johnson said he compared his game to something between Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. It talked about his size, strength and agility. I wanna say, in the article, was a video of Johnson doing gymnastic type moves including a backflip. At 6'5" 320 lbs. Big, athletic dude.

    According to Rivals Johnson was the 133 rd ranked player and 7th ranked DT. Thomas was ranked 196th and 13th ranked DT.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Normally I would agree with what you are saying and you are probably correct. However, Frazier and Johnson standout to me as freshman that will see the field (barring injuries) this year. Greene also is a possibility. Frazier may be, may, be the biggest impact freshman this year for us. Johnson is a monster of a DL who supposedly has gotten much bigger and stronger than his listed size and weight when he was recruited. Johnson along with Joseph Jonah-Ajonye could both be impact players this year. This freshman class is loaded full of diamonds.

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    GtheGreekGtheGreek Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Punter Drew Miller-#1 overall punter……should Brett Thorson be worried???

    BioStatsMediaCareer Highs
    * 5 punts vs. Auburn, 2022; UT Martin, 2023
    * Long punt of 75 vs. Tennessee, 2022

    2023: Played in all 14 games as Georgia’s punter…recorded 32 punts for an average of 43.8 yards on the season, including 14 punts that landed inside the 20-yard line and six punts that sailed 50+ yards...punted five times for an average of 44.6 yards in season-opening win vs UT Martin…two punts were downed inside the 20-yard line against the Skyhawks...named to Ray Guy Award's "Ray's 8" for his performance vs. UT Martin...punted three times for an average of 45.3 yards vs. Ball State...had three punts for an average of 37.0 yards against South Carolina...recorded three punts for an average of 46.7 yards, including one touchback at Auburn...punted once for 40 yards in win over Kentucky...placed all three punts inside the 20-yard line in win over Florida, punting for an average of 35.7 yards...punted three times for an average of 44.3 yards in win over Missouri...recorded 41-yard punt in win over Ole Miss...punted two times for an average of 44 yards in win at Tennessee...recorded a 41-yard punt in win at Georgia Tech...punted four times for an average of 50.2 yards in SEC Championship vs. Alabama…two of his punts against the Crimson Tide sailed at least 50 yards, including a season-long 60-yarder...placed 48-yard punt inside the 20-yard line in Capital One Orange Bowl win over Florida State...Ray Guy Award Watch List selection.
    2022: Coaches’ SEC All-Freshman Team...punted 36 times this season for an average of 48 yards...18 of his punts were fair caught, 19 of them downed inside the 20-yard line...season-long punt of 75 yards rolled out of bounds at the Tennessee 1-yard line...it was the longest punt by a Bulldog in 13 years and 10th longest in UGA history...previous season-long 56-yarder came in South Carolina game...all five of his punts in win over Auburn were fair caught inside the 20, three of them inside the 10...punted four times in SEC Championship win over LSU for a 51.8 average...punted twice for average of 44.5 yards in win over Ohio State in the CFP Semifinal Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl...punted once for 48 yards in CFP National Championship Game.

    I DON'T THINK SO! ……What a Great opportunity for Drew to work with one of the Best punters in CF in preparation for 25!

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I am seeing some subtle shifts in how CKS is recruiting as a result of NIL and the TP.

    CKS has, up until recently, followed the AL model of recruiting the best players he can. Then he levels the playing field and lets the chips fall where they may. There is a little loyalty to experienced players over freshmen but that is mostly because freshmen are unproven in SEC play.

    The result of that style of recruiting (with the talent UGA attracts) is that older players that don't develop as much get recruited over. They see the handwriting on the wall and leave. So, to some degree, UGA NEEDS to play freshmen players. There will always be heavy participation by freshmen on special teams with the cream (at least a handful?) becoming rotational players on O and D. Off course injuries could push freshmen into the forefront ready or not.

    Because of this years team make up, KJ Bolden will have to start sooner rather than later. IF Everette, Humphrey and Harris don't take BIG development steps ERIV will be nipping at their heels. There could be other's but who? It could be any of them. They are all talented. It is a question of physical and mental readiness.

    Difficult to predict. We all have our favorites. Frazier is one of mine. He will be impacted by ETN's durability and BRob's availability.

    The subtle changes I see in UGA recruiting is the debate of buying players vs developing players. UGA is getting less involved in the 5* ($$$) business and more vocal about how this staff develops NFL players. That seems to equate to a shift in players that are cheaper up front but still have high ceilings. They just need maybe more development than the 5* players that want to get paid up front. These players (example lower rated OL) may stay in the program longer than the 5* (3 and done) players (Starks, Mykel Williams, Travon Walker, etc etc).

    The way UGA/CKS recruits there are quite a few freshmen players that could/should become significant contributors. Just hard to predict who they will be.

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    CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yep. I saw that Johnson ranked higher than Thomas by most of the services, although not by a huge amount. The reason I said Thomas would "possibly" be ahead is because he made spring camp.

    That's often another factor in freshmen contributing. If they attended spring camp and weren't injured during the off-season, they seem to be readier to contribute than slightly higher ranked guys who missed spring camp or got injured. They exception is often — as you note, generally — the super-talented guys, of whom Frazier could turn out to be an example this year.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is a very good post. I couldn't agree more. I was pondering something similar. The days of stacking players class after class is probably over with a few exceptions. The exceptions are when you have a position or assistant coach who is considered the best at their position in the country you can still convince players to come and wait. A couple of examples are the linebackers at UGA and the quarterbacks and wrs at Ohio State.

    Now to your point I think the new model is you have to play the 5* freshman unless they are flops in order to get them to stay and not jump ship. This means the other players ahead of them are under a lot of pressure to perform or leave (which we see every year now). I think now you may have a top 5 class followed by a top 1 or 2 class and back and forth like that giving some breathing room for some of these guys to develop. I would look for more flyers (McKonkey types with huge upside who will stay even if a 3rd teamer) taken this year and a lower class rank to give all those stars a chance to grow and not jump ship. Not sure if we will see this at the other powers as well like OSU, Michigan, Texas, and Alabama.

    This is good news for other teams and for college football, but not for Georgia.

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