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@Brooksie Thanks. Please do not mistake me: I was not attacking UGA fans or SEC fans. I was just reminding people that blowouts in the playoff happen all the time. Even in the NFL where there aren't the massive disparities in recruiting demographics, resources and commitment to football that the SEC enjoys over the rest of college football. Yes, being in the SEC is meaningful and gives you an advantage but you have to do something with it. Having more losses than quality wins does not count as "doing something with it." Alabama beat Georgia but they gave up 40 points to 6-6 Vanderbilt and lost 24-3 to 6-6 Oklahoma. Ole Miss beat Georgia but their nonconference schedule was as bad as Indiana's and they lost at home to 4-8 Kentucky plus to a 7-5 Florida team that didn't pull away from Tulane until halfway through the 3rd quarter.
Keep in mind: Ohio State and Tennessee had the same record coming into this game. This is why the playoff committee is never going to use "conference strength" as a metric. I am looking at Lane Kiffin's Twitter feed right now and it is strangely quiet. I wonder why …
@E_Roc This year was undefeated Oregon, an 11-1 Notre Dame team with a bad loss and no great wins, and the rest with 2 losses or more. Plus all of the 2 loss teams had bad losses. Even a single game for the championship like in the BCS era would have been a farce. UGA fans would have claimed to be most deserving because schedule but that would have required ignoring how suspect UGA actually looked when playing the games, even in their wins (average at tailback, below average at WR, a secondary prone to giving up big plays and a run defense that fell apart down the stretch). And this was WITH Carson Beck, the guy who led the SEC in TD passes despite all those problems. (UGA fans are convinced that UGA will be as good or better with Gunner Stockton but don't expect everyone else to be a UGA fan.) So if Ohio State didn't belong in the playoff then nobody did. The title should have been handed to Oregon with everyone calling it a day.
And by the way, while making the first round games home games is something that needs to be looked it, it was not a factor in the Ohio State-Tennessee game. Vols fans bought up nearly half the tickets. Ohio State shut those fans up with a 21-0 first quarter which would have been 28-0 had the referees not blatantly intervened to try to keep the Vols in the game. As for the other first round games, you had 2 matchups between traditional powerhouses and glorified mid-majors (ND-Indiana, PSU-SMU) which would have been the same regardless of where they were played. The other was 3 loss - and nearly 5 loss! - Clemson against a Texas team that was undefeated against everyone but Georgia. So even though it is a great argument, this year's matchups were terrible ones to make it with.
Really hoping Dan Lanning can rally his troops to knock off Ohio state. Too many buckeye fans in my neighborhood lol. They are always the most talented team in football but thankfully they always find a way to lose. Gotta keep that 54 year championship drought intact! (I dont count urban Meyer championships or the 2003 Miami game when they threw a flag after the game ended haha).
All the more to my point. Rarely are there ever more than 2-3 truly elite teams that might actually be the best in the country. This year, there is maybe one, who happened to struggle against both Boise and Wisconsin. This year probably represents the most competitive 12 team field we're likely to see. And the first four games were absolutely worthless. So even if the parity we're seeing isn't just a one-off, and will prove to be the new norm with NIL and portal influence, it still leaves very little on the bone for arguing for a 12 team playoff.
You got into some tangents that I'm not going to bother addressing. But to say that the title should just be handed to Oregon based on regular season alone, however rhetorical, seems like an attempt at dodging the fact that we now have a playoff format that will reliably include more than a few teams that clearly won't belong. Every season has a #1 team before the bowl games / playoffs start. But even way back when, they still played those games before naming a champion. This debate is about where to draw the line, not whether there should even be one.
Oh and there's more to home field advantage than crowd distribution, even assuming Tennessee fans actually did have half the seats, which sure didn't look to be the case.
Lol.…don't care if they included 24 Teams in the CFP....in 2024....it's still gonna come down to UGA, Oregon, Texas & OSU. In that order, IMO. It's just a matter of "physics" [tic]. Lol....Penn State's gonna be there, as the 5th best.
Still kinda fun to watch these guys play and get a peek at the competition. Or, lack of it. Lol
Go get em Big Red! Put a little Sugar on your Oranges.
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This may be recency bias but after watching the games over the past 2 days, Ohio state looks like the team to beat. I feel like I almost threw up typing that 🤢. But the way they were flying around and blowing up both lines of scrimmage, they looked good, and smith was incredible.
UGA gotta take care of business first, but when we play our best no one can stop us.
Go dawgs!
Lol
I too thought the games were not playoff worthy. Then I had a couple of thoughts. It’s a high seed playing a low seed, thus the high seed is supposed to have an advantage. And being dawg fans, remember ole Miss? That was a blowout. How about Texas in Austin? My point is even with 2 really good teams, bad games happen.
I hope they make some changes for next year. I saw Greg Sankey on sec nation yesterday, and he talked about the commissioner’s meeting in February where they will meet to discuss next year’s format. Obviously 3/4 of the games were complete mismatches, but I don’t begrudge SMU, IU, and clemson their chance. They played their schedule and mostly did what they needed to do to get in position. Unfortunately though, I think you’ll only see two competitive games in next round. Also, the osu game reminded me of the uga game two years ago when osu played their best, most complete game of the year. But unlike us that year, Tenn played horribly.
The seeding is what needs to change. When I looked at the 1st round games, I figured the results would be exact how it played out. The next round should be more competitive but still there might be one or two games that aren't that close.
If you think about it, basketball's March Madness has this same issue in the first rounds. Teams are blown out but occasionally you get an upset (more likely with that many teams). The FCS 24-team football playoff runs into the same problem. Many uncompetitive games early on until you get to the quarter and semi-final games like yesterday. In fact, I watched those games more than FBS! GO Bobcats!!
Of all the unfair matchups with these seedings, it seems the biggest injustice will be #1 Oregon having to slug it out with OSU while TX and PSU likely cruise right into the semis. After what we saw last night, I think Oregon is in trouble.
I guess people didn't like my reality check. Can Georgia win it? Of course but some things need to go right for us. 8 teams left. Right now OSU and Oregon have to be the favorites. Texas Penn State and Georgia probably the next best favorites. Too many unknowns with Gunner Stockton and our sub par wide receivers. Defense has played great some games and then played like dog beneure others. So what defense shows up for Notre Dame and Penn State?
Like I said earlier I think we squeak by Notre Dame and Penn State is a toss up. Don't think we have the offense to beat Oregon or OSU in a high scoring game. Would love for Gunner to be the next Stetson Bennett but this defense isn't the 21 or 22 version. I just hope we make the championship game.
I like the odds of UGA winning it on the field, in 3 or 4 games, against worthy competition, more than I like UGA trying to win over "votes" in a biased Committee Room.
They'll have a lot more Natty opportunities under this CFP System, than they would otherwise. Lord only knows, how many Natty's the Dawgs would have...if they had been using a playoff system over the last hundred years, give or take.
Moreover....there's no telling how many fewer Natty's the other Conferences would have, today. Particularly the BIG10 and Notre Dame. Lol…the field ain't slanted in that direction anymore. Sort of. South Carolina, Ole Miss and Alabama may want to disagree.
Bottom line.....It's ten times better than the "Hype-Driven" 4-Team CFP, BCS and ranking systems of old. Before that....I pretty much disregard the Polls of the day. Especially, the methodology of determining a teams strength. Just look at Minnesota's Natty's in the '30's as an example.