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Georgia football recruiting: How UGA wins talent without huge NIL deals

SystemSystem Posts: 14,078 admin
edited June 22 in Article commenting
imageGeorgia football recruiting: How UGA wins talent without huge NIL deals

Welcome to "Sentell's Intel" where Jeff Sentell not only provides you the latest recruiting information, he takes you into the homes of these students and what makes them special to the Georgia program.

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  • BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't think anyone knows if this will work long term. We will start finding out in 28 and 29 when the current 4 and 5 stars are mostly gone. Part of what made the team great was the competition to start between high 4 stars and 5 stars. Without competition from comparatively skilled players can you still be a top 5 team?

    I have my doubts. A salary cap on team spend is the only long term solution that will work with Georgia staying at the top unless they can get a billionaire or 2 to back the program.

  • ramborambo Posts: 45 ✭✭✭ Junior

    If these metrics from NILStandard are accurate (and I have doubts that anyone knows for sure) I would hope that Georgia should, at the very least, be in the top 10 nationally in football budget. If so, you trust in coaching to develop the raw ability to a championship level. It's amazing what has transpired over a handful of years…and not amazing in a good way

  • BubbaBillBubbaBill Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Dang I hate this!!! Go Dawgs and to hell with NIL……and GT too!!!

  • RedUga4EverRedUga4Ever Posts: 305 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Sobering stats. Thanks for the detailed info. I think the Bluebonnet Bowl is thrilled!

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 33,795 mod

    can we get a cap on the coaching salaries too? That would probably help teams from hoarding all the coaching talent!

  • GtheGreekGtheGreek Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "Culture matters. Development matters. NFL credibility matters. Georgia has all three in abundance."….Thank you DawgfromILM…..I will tell you that "HS Stars will never trump physical attributes combined with DAWG heart & soul FIRE"…then you add Development which leads to NFL cred and the result are winning seasons/playoff contention and that defines DAWG CULTURE. Paycheck Players don't have the "right stuff" to succeed at UGA…Kirby & Company know this and consciously avoid these types despite HS Stars….UGA has more than enough "DEEP Pockets" and could easily win the dollar war each year but this model has failed time and time again….just ask Jimbo, Brian, James….Dollars will never trump Coaching/Development/Culture.

  • dazzledawgdazzledawg Posts: 524 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
  • sthop456sthop456 Posts: 126 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited June 22

    It'll be slow, but unless something changes, the big spenders will eventually win out in the long run. These aren't crappy schools, either. Future NFL is a gamble. Life-changing, upfront, guaranteed $$$ for some of these kids (and their struggling families) is hard to beat, regardless of development, culture, etc. I love my Dawgs, but it is what it is for now.

  • jdatl3jdatl3 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What happens when you spend big money on 5 stars and they aren't really 5 stars. JT Daniels was a 5 star, but is totally out of football.

    Funny how facilities were the most important thing years ago, and now recruits say they will get dressed in a closet if you pay them enough. The genie is out of the bottle. This won't be good for the sport.

  • BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Major League Baseball has had this model forever and that is why the big spenders usually have the best teams. Not always, but usually. Look at the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers. Big money wins more often. Now the Braves are more like the current Georgia model that relies on a farm system of development and money. The Braves spend, but they don't spend the most.

    We should continue to be competitive as long as we have Kirby and spend in the top 15.

    Now when you look at salary cap sports like the NFL what works? The Patriots are a great example of paying a few players a lot to be the foundation and then supplementing with free agents and guys who you can get cheaper for whatever reason. Patriots did this with perfection for 15 years. Teams like the Cowboys who used to be able to spend more to make their teams great now cannot and that is why they haven't been winning super bowls.

    Roster management is everything in the pros with salary cap.

  • 87Dawg_1187Dawg_11 Posts: 238 ✭✭✭ Junior

    NIL has changed the dynamics of college football in recruiting and retention, but the bottom line is that identifying, recruiting, and retaining the right talent at the right position(s) remains the most important part of winning a CFP championship. Indiana just won a CFP national championship with a good but not better-than-the-teams-they-beat roster, except at one key position: QB. They identified, recruited, and paid a QB who was a force multiplier, and that position is the most important position on the field. That Indiana team was good, but if we looked at recruiting ranking and even draft status, they weren't more talented than Ohio St, Oregon, or Miami, but they did have the best QB. Coaches will have to be more discerning with whom they choose to play QB and make an investment in a force multiplier at that position. The days of building a great team around a game manager QB are gone when it comes to competing for a championship.

  • SnakeScott13SnakeScott13 Posts: 266 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Those budget numbers are only part of the deals . That’s what gets taxed but plenty from the lone star state that is not . Not being bitter just a fact of the times .

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Great synopsis Jeff. Retaining top talent is and will continue to be the #1 priority for any team competing and winning the National Championship. All you have to do is look at the makeup of the last few teams that have won it all.

    The final and just as important piece: Coaching.

    I'd say Kirby and his group are among the top staffs in the country.

  • Tswood1959Tswood1959 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Jeff, you don’t talk about the top recruits that stayed a year or two then left for other schools. Look at AD Mitchell, Pops, Burton etc etc. These players helped Georgia have the top recruitment over a few years, they were developed then bolted for that greener pasture ( money). Proud of the guys who stayed and wanted to be part of the Georgia tradition.

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