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Georgia football recruiting: How UGA wins talent without huge NIL deals

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  • Tswood1959Tswood1959 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I understand he is coaching somewhere now. Not sure of the level of teams

  • Tswood1959Tswood1959 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So is it just NIL money that keeping Georgia from getting the big time recruits?

  • JBMDawg46JBMDawg46 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thanks Jeff. Good info. While I’m sick of the greed and selfishness revealed by NIL, I’m with Kirby’s approach while not being sure how it will ultimately play out. Like Kirby, I want the guys who want to be a Dawg. Also want guys who understand there’s more to life than money. Kids who are willing to work harder and are loyal to their school can make us all proud. They are also more likely to be good productive citizens when their playing days are over. This is about more than football. It’s about life.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 33,800 mod

    what’s your feelings on the greed of the coaches who keep getting bigger raises?

  • RomeDawg288RomeDawg288 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Mitchell bolted for different reasons. Absolutely wanted to stay a Dawg. Life dictated otherwise in this situation.

  • BobDogBobDog Posts: 9 ✭ Freshman

    If you go after a lot of these five stars who are shopping for the highest dollar and not really wanting to be there, you’re risking losing them to the portal. Somebody else contacts their agent and steals them or they get disgruntled. If you have three and four stars who really want to be at Georgia, understand what it takes and are willing to put in the work, in three or four years you have a solid roster. Didn’t Indiana do well with older, more mature players without a lot of stars by their names?

  • lucydoglucydog Posts: 790 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Silly Season (AKA the college recruitment of high school athletes). Look at this board and these comments from all of these great Dawg fans. This troubles my soul. NIL has turned college football into an unknown and troubling endeavour. You wouldn't think that paying 17 and 18 year olds millions of dollars would cause any issues, Right?

  • DawgfromILMDawgfromILM Posts: 281 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Wayne Huizenga literally bought a World Series in 1997 when he stacked the Florida Marlins with 5-star ball players for one year.

    The dismantling was immediate: eight players were traded by Christmas 1997, including Moisés Alou, Robb Nen, Devon White, Jeff Conine, Kevin Brown, Dennis Cook, Ed Vosberg, and Kurt Abbott. Then, in May 1998, Florida dealt Gary Sheffield, Charles Johnson, Bobby Bonilla, and Jim Eisenreich in the Mike Piazza transaction. ESPN

  • DawgfromILMDawgfromILM Posts: 281 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Is it immoral to accept a raise? Is Lane Kiffen immoral?

    Rep. Michael Baumgartner’s proposed COACH Act specifically seeks a limited federal antitrust exemption before allowing schools collectively to cap athletics-department compensation. The bill itself acknowledges the NCAA’s earlier coaching-pay limits were struck down.
    https://baumgartner.house.gov/media/press-releases/baumgartner-bill-puts-coaches-budget-salary-cap-tied-tuition-restoring-sanity

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 33,800 mod

    so you are ok with coaches getting wages increased, but not players? How come?

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 5,838 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    OK imho there’s allot of three stars this cycle. Check. But here’s the thing win it All in 2026 and the four and five stars will come in 2027 and possibly 2028. Mean while KS and staff will be coaching up these 3 stars in 2026.

    Now I realize some will never come to full very good to great player fruition. But over the years we’ve had three stars turn out to be very good to great over the long haul. KS can and will fill in gaps with the TP. We all know that Kirby doesn’t recruit Just for the upcoming season, he recruits looking at multiple seasons ahead.

    Being a three star doesn’t mean the end of the world as we know it !! Though it probably Would to allot of programs out there ! We’re gonna be fine !! Believe !! Go Dawgs !!

  • DawgfromILMDawgfromILM Posts: 281 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
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    I'm OK with both. Let the market set the price for talent. That's called capitalism and I'm big on capitalism.

    Sorry if I ever confused you.

    Until the players are unionized or we see federal protections for the universities, expect more audacious NIL numbers.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 33,800 mod

    i agree. And until that happens I refuse to be scandalized by high NIL numbers when coaches can make $10M a year and coordinators $2M a year.

  • JBMDawg46JBMDawg46 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey - Hey Kasey. Thanks for asking. I’ve said it before, but since you asked, I am of the opinion that the wages being paid to college coaches has gotten out of hand. Paying someone $13,000,000+ to coach a football team seems wacko to me. Back in the day, I taught 8th grade and was paid $5,900 a year plus a $400 supplement for coaching. That was obviously wacko low, but…. I then went to law school and practiced law for 8+ years before becoming a law professor. Made a good living. Provided for my family. Now retired and living comfortably. Never made over $250,000 a year, but never lacked the necessities of life and was able to enjoy life doing many things I enjoy like traveling, playing golf, going to UGA Football games, etc.

    Hope this helps you understand my perspective. BTW, I enjoy MOST of your comments. 😊

  • BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    All true and valid points.

    It's a message board so perfectly fine to wish we had more money to buy up players that we are not getting now. Perfectly fine. Doesn't change the reality that Kirby is dealing with. He knows the budget based on existing and not imaginary alumni.

    Would you rather risk losing the guy you have put 1-2 years into and then have to replace him with lesser talent but have to pay more for? We spent our money on guys we believe in that are here putting in the work. No issues with that.

    Now in the future will we want to put our money into 3 star guys that may not be as good after development as a 4 or 5 star guy? That will be the challenge.

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