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Yup, one more(Fields)

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

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  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    STOP THE MADNESS!!!

    NO MORE THREADS ABOUT JUSTIN FIELDS, IT'S BEYOND OLD AND BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Casanova_Flatulence said:
    STOP THE MADNESS!!!

    NO MORE THREADS ABOUT JUSTIN FIELDS, IT'S BEYOND OLD AND BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!

    Know that I shall start a new one if you keep trying to ruin this one

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  • HunkerDown1MoreTimeHunkerDown1MoreTime Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    No case. Lol

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You guys with the “no case” comments. Are we just supposed to accept the random usernames you’ve chosen as authoritative? Or where you guys planning on coming back later with what you guys knew about past NCAA rulings that indicated there would be no case?

    I don’t pretend to know that the “Justin wanna play baseball” argument would work. I just know it’s a hell of a lot better than the “Justin couldn’t hear it when it happened, but someone yelled at him” argument.

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    The supposed racist would still be Sasser. And this racist was allowed to play on the baseball team for 3 years. But now he’s been kicked off said team because of an incident with Justin. So because of the racially hostile environment UGA allowed to fester, Justin is not comfortable going to play baseball with this racist’s former friends. You don’t have to accuse the other baseball players of being racist. Just accuse them of being friends with Sasser.

    That’s one way you could work the argument. There are others.

    The act that the university kicked Sasser off the team establishes what Sasser did as so reprehensible, the school couldn’t tolerate his participation any more. So a lawyer wouldn’t have to bother with establishing there is a racially hostile environment. The school has said that about themselves with their actions. The lawyer just has to show how that affects Justin.

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  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    The supposed racist would still be Sasser. And this racist was allowed to play on the baseball team for 3 years. But now he’s been kicked off said team because of an incident with Justin. So because of the racially hostile environment UGA allowed to fester, Justin is not comfortable going to play baseball with this racist’s former friends. You don’t have to accuse the other baseball players of being racist. Just accuse them of being friends with Sasser.

    That’s one way you could work the argument. There are others.

    The act that the university kicked Sasser off the team establishes what Sasser did as so reprehensible, the school couldn’t tolerate his participation any more. So a lawyer wouldn’t have to bother with establishing there is a racially hostile environment. The school has said that about themselves with their actions. The lawyer just has to show how that affects Justin.

    No, it shows UGA doesn't tolerate the actions of the individual. A frat kid was punished by the university for brandishing a gun at a party on campus. Does that mean the university is admitting it has a violent environment? No, it shows it won't tolerate violent individuals.

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    The supposed racist would still be Sasser. And this racist was allowed to play on the baseball team for 3 years. But now he’s been kicked off said team because of an incident with Justin. So because of the racially hostile environment UGA allowed to fester, Justin is not comfortable going to play baseball with this racist’s former friends. You don’t have to accuse the other baseball players of being racist. Just accuse them of being friends with Sasser.

    That’s one way you could work the argument. There are others.

    The act that the university kicked Sasser off the team establishes what Sasser did as so reprehensible, the school couldn’t tolerate his participation any more. So a lawyer wouldn’t have to bother with establishing there is a racially hostile environment. The school has said that about themselves with their actions. The lawyer just has to show how that affects Justin.

    That's all fine and dandy, except he isnt currently playing baseball(which of course we all know). If he now wants to play baseball then grant him the waiver for baseball but not football. Name one case where anyone has ever successfully argued they should be allowed to play immediately in one sport at another school because of something that happened involving a sport they werent playing but "think" they would like to play. Whoever reviews his case is going to know he was the backup in the sport for which he is requesting the waiver, and that his hypothetical argument about not feeling comfortable playing baseball is bogus and TOTALLY unrelated to his playing football It is also a really insulting insinuation to say, "Well I am not currently on the team but I "feel" that the other members of the team will harbor resentment regarding the loss of their fellow racist teammate. He cant argue they have treated him poorly. He can only argue he is worried they might treat him poorly. Doesn't work that way. At least it isnt supposed to work that way. The proposed argument doesnt pass the silly ****.

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    9> @YaleDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    The supposed racist would still be Sasser. And this racist was allowed to play on the baseball team for 3 years. But now he’s been kicked off said team because of an incident with Justin. So because of the racially hostile environment UGA allowed to fester, Justin is not comfortable going to play baseball with this racist’s former friends. You don’t have to accuse the other baseball players of being racist. Just accuse them of being friends with Sasser.

    That’s one way you could work the argument. There are others.

    The act that the university kicked Sasser off the team establishes what Sasser did as so reprehensible, the school couldn’t tolerate his participation any more. So a lawyer wouldn’t have to bother with establishing there is a racially hostile environment. The school has said that about themselves with their actions. The lawyer just has to show how that affects Justin.

    No, it shows UGA doesn't tolerate the actions of the individual. A frat kid was punished by the university for brandishing a gun at a party on campus. Does that mean the university is admitting it has a violent environment? No, it shows it won't tolerate violent individuals.

    Your Yale educated argument left out how severe the punishment was, and whether or not this “brandishing” was part of a threat against another student.

    The simple analogy you’ve given has a hundred different possibilities for answers.t8s just not worth the time to go into.

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @Bankwalker said:

    @levander said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    In that case he should absolutely be granted a waiver to be eligible immediately - IN BASEBALL.

    He's transferring because he is the backup and everyone in the World knows he is transferring because he is the backup. You can't legitimately argue that you need to transfer because you don't feel welcome on the baseball team because of someone who isn't on the baseball team, especially when you haven't ever been on the baseball team to actually experience what you perceive to be allegedly being alleged in order to gain eligibility in a different sport. It's ridiculous, and abusive.

    Either way, UGA football is going to be just fine.

    He's also not that great of a baseball prospect. Scouts report says, "hand hitch load, tends to be late getting his hands moving forward, has late bat speed and can impact the ball hard when on time. "

    I’m with ya on the baseball stuff. I’ll admit that I wasn’t following recruiting too closely last year. I certainly knew JF was a top football prospect but I initially thought they were talking out of their asses and had to google Justin Fields and baseball. There were a few stories about slight interest from scouts but nothing like the Oklahoma kid.

    But in the screwed up logic of the NCAA I can see them giving in on it as the path of least resistance. They don’t want the racial headlines to go any further than Georgia does. Blame it on one guy who’s gone, let Fields play next year, and it pretty much goes away without a lot of fuss.

    Sounds like Pablo may have had legal advice earlier than last week.

    Yet he stayed 3 full months longer and nothing else has happened. Nobody on the baseball team has done anything. Fields didn’t do anything to cause him to get kicked out of school. He would be alleging that the baseball team is racist even though the other players have not done anything to support the claim. Bogus. Im sure they do expect him to be eligible but the facts do not support his case.

    The supposed racist would still be Sasser. And this racist was allowed to play on the baseball team for 3 years. But now he’s been kicked off said team because of an incident with Justin. So because of the racially hostile environment UGA allowed to fester, Justin is not comfortable going to play baseball with this racist’s former friends. You don’t have to accuse the other baseball players of being racist. Just accuse them of being friends with Sasser.

    That’s one way you could work the argument. There are others.

    The act that the university kicked Sasser off the team establishes what Sasser did as so reprehensible, the school couldn’t tolerate his participation any more. So a lawyer wouldn’t have to bother with establishing there is a racially hostile environment. The school has said that about themselves with their actions. The lawyer just has to show how that affects Justin.

    That's all fine and dandy, except he isnt currently playing baseball(which of course we all know). If he now wants to play baseball then grant him the waiver for baseball but not football. Name one case where anyone has ever successfully argued they should be allowed to play immediately in one sport at another school because of something that happened involving a sport they werent playing but "think" they would like to play. Whoever reviews his case is going to know he was the backup in the sport for which he is requesting the waiver, and that his hypothetical argument about not feeling comfortable playing baseball is bogus and TOTALLY unrelated to his playing football It is also a really insulting insinuation to say, "Well I am not currently on the team but I "feel" that the other members of the team will harbor resentment regarding the loss of their fellow racist teammate. He cant argue they have treated him poorly. He can only argue he is worried they might treat him poorly. Doesn't work that way. At least it isnt supposed to work that way. The proposed argument doesnt pass the silly ****.

    it’s entirely natural for someone to harbor ill feelings when a friend of there’s is unjustly punished. And if you noticed, Justin didn’t say much about the whole incident. He could have spoken in favor of Sasser, he decided not to.

    And I’m not familiar with the NCAA’s covenants. No idea if you have to prove your case for a specific sport or a specific school. I just know that the “Justin wanna play baseball” argument is far better than the “Just couldn’t hear it at the time, but later he found out” argument.

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  • YK_DAWG24YK_DAWG24 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Does a (god-forbid) injury to Fromm in the sugar bowl and a good performance by Fields change or effects his decision to stay or leave?

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    Does a (god-forbid) injury to Fromm in the sugar bowl and a good performance by Fields change or effects his decision to stay or leave?

    What you’re talking about may have been a part of what was behind that 4th and 11 fake punt call. Trying to make a hero out of Justin.

    I kind of imagine it!s too late for that now though.

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  • YK_DAWG24YK_DAWG24 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    Does a (god-forbid) injury to Fromm in the sugar bowl and a good performance by Fields change or effects his decision to stay or leave?

    What you’re talking about may have been a part of what was behind that 4th and 11 fake punt call. Trying to make a hero out of Justin.

    I kind of imagine it!s too late for that now though.

    CKS has done so many things right, it's blowing my mind how wrong he handle fields this whole season. I'm still encouraged about our future, but still bummed cuz the season isn't over and it's happening now

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @levander said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    Does a (god-forbid) injury to Fromm in the sugar bowl and a good performance by Fields change or effects his decision to stay or leave?

    What you’re talking about may have been a part of what was behind that 4th and 11 fake punt call. Trying to make a hero out of Justin.

    I kind of imagine it!s too late for that now though.

    CKS has done so many things right, it's blowing my mind how wrong he handle fields this whole season. I'm still encouraged about our future, but still bummed cuz the season isn't over and it's happening now

    CKS isn’t perfect. But he still has my full support.

    I do wonder if he’s too aggressive in recruiting. I came out against both the recruitment of Justin Fields and D-Rob, I can’t really say I got the Justin Fields recruitment right though, because I switched my opinion after Eason left.

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  • YK_DAWG24YK_DAWG24 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @levander said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    Does a (god-forbid) injury to Fromm in the sugar bowl and a good performance by Fields change or effects his decision to stay or leave?

    What you’re talking about may have been a part of what was behind that 4th and 11 fake punt call. Trying to make a hero out of Justin.

    I kind of imagine it!s too late for that now though.

    CKS has done so many things right, it's blowing my mind how wrong he handle fields this whole season. I'm still encouraged about our future, but still bummed cuz the season isn't over and it's happening now

    CKS isn’t perfect. But he still has my full support.

    I do wonder if he’s too aggressive in recruiting. I came out against both the recruitment of Justin Fields and D-Rob, I can’t really say I got the Justin Fields recruitment right though, because I switched my opinion after Eason left.

    Oh yeah of course cks has my full support. The recruiting wins and on field success speaks for itself. I don't want him to change his recruiting tactics but I see your point. Hopefully over recruiting doesn't back fire. The sooner we win the less I see that as a problem.

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