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My experience with Dawgs247/247sports

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  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 5,376 mod

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Now carry on as you so often state you have better things to do than read my posts..

    I'll mail you a slice of pizza if you can find a single time I've made that remark - to anyone. Saying you have better things to do while posting on a forum like this is a head scratcher. If so, wouldn't you be doing those things? Crediting me with that remark makes me think you've got me lumped in with a couple different people. With me it's very much "reap what you sow". Tired of the squabble? I think that's great, but actions speak louder than words.

    Oh, I'm sorry..your TLDRs or outright insults on my posts are meant with the utmost respect huh? And here I thought you were just a D-bag with a grudge. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by DVing you a few times for trying to hijjack my thread and then not waiting around for your petty reply. Seems you made good use of the time by starting a thread bemoaning downvotes in such a d-baggy way that you reaped even more and realized perhaps not everyone finds you as captivating and humorous as you are in your own head. I care so little about DVs that you're one of the few not named rattler or Bamaway that I've bothered to. But if it makes you feel better I'll take them back. Didn't know you were such a sensitive type...

    Edit: my apologies to everyone for bumping this thread again. Sometimes it can be tough to remember that engaging in petty squabbles with petty people is pointless and just gives them what they want.

    Have it your way, buttchugger.

    Lmao

  • umoonerumooner Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I’m a member at 247. I’m going to guess that most of your posts on 247 were complaints about not getting enough information or accusing the 247 staff of being biased towards Bama or biased in some other way. Those kinds of posts add nothing towards the discussion and are pretty worthless all the way around. However, I do think that their mods should let you know what you were banned for.

    Also, just so you know they do have mods other than Jake, Kipp, and Rusty although they certainly “mod” the board as well.

  • scooterdawgscooterdawg Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Now carry on as you so often state you have better things to do than read my posts..

    I'll mail you a slice of pizza if you can find a single time I've made that remark - to anyone. Saying you have better things to do while posting on a forum like this is a head scratcher. If so, wouldn't you be doing those things? Crediting me with that remark makes me think you've got me lumped in with a couple different people. With me it's very much "reap what you sow". Tired of the squabble? I think that's great, but actions speak louder than words.

    Oh, I'm sorry..your TLDRs or outright insults on my posts are meant with the utmost respect huh? And here I thought you were just a D-bag with a grudge. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by DVing you a few times for trying to hijjack my thread and then not waiting around for your petty reply. Seems you made good use of the time by starting a thread bemoaning downvotes in such a d-baggy way that you reaped even more and realized perhaps not everyone finds you as captivating and humorous as you are in your own head. I care so little about DVs that you're one of the few not named rattler or Bamaway that I've bothered to. But if it makes you feel better I'll take them back. Didn't know you were such a sensitive type...

    Edit: my apologies to everyone for bumping this thread again. Sometimes it can be tough to remember that engaging in petty squabbles with petty people is pointless and just gives them what they want.

    Have it your way, buttchugger.

    Wow. I don't even have to try to make you look like an immature ass...you do a great job of it yourself. Difference between you and me is that I know I can be a dick and actually try to avoid it. You're either delusional as to how you come off or just don't care. I've actually lost the sliver of respect I had for you. Need a pat on the head? :)

  • RedFiveRedFive Posts: 99 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

  • scooterdawgscooterdawg Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

    I’m sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read an Off Topic thread. Thanks for taking the time to comment though. /s. BTW people, I posted this under Off Topic, stated numerous times that I realized it was petty on my part to do so, and put stuff in such as “I’m sure it states in the terms of service” in my replies. You don’t like me or my opinion? Great...didn’t force anyone to read it and by taking the time to leave a sh$tty reply you’re being just as petty as me.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dawgnms said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Now carry on as you so often state you have better things to do than read my posts..

    I'll mail you a slice of pizza if you can find a single time I've made that remark - to anyone. Saying you have better things to do while posting on a forum like this is a head scratcher. If so, wouldn't you be doing those things? Crediting me with that remark makes me think you've got me lumped in with a couple different people. With me it's very much "reap what you sow". Tired of the squabble? I think that's great, but actions speak louder than words.

    Oh, I'm sorry..your TLDRs or outright insults on my posts are meant with the utmost respect huh? And here I thought you were just a D-bag with a grudge. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by DVing you a few times for trying to hijjack my thread and then not waiting around for your petty reply. Seems you made good use of the time by starting a thread bemoaning downvotes in such a d-baggy way that you reaped even more and realized perhaps not everyone finds you as captivating and humorous as you are in your own head. I care so little about DVs that you're one of the few not named rattler or Bamaway that I've bothered to. But if it makes you feel better I'll take them back. Didn't know you were such a sensitive type...

    Edit: my apologies to everyone for bumping this thread again. Sometimes it can be tough to remember that engaging in petty squabbles with petty people is pointless and just gives them what they want.

    Have it your way, buttchugger.

    Lmao

    In my head I imagined the Kenny Powers/Danny McBride from East Bound and Down saying it.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Now carry on as you so often state you have better things to do than read my posts..

    I'll mail you a slice of pizza if you can find a single time I've made that remark - to anyone. Saying you have better things to do while posting on a forum like this is a head scratcher. If so, wouldn't you be doing those things? Crediting me with that remark makes me think you've got me lumped in with a couple different people. With me it's very much "reap what you sow". Tired of the squabble? I think that's great, but actions speak louder than words.

    Oh, I'm sorry..your TLDRs or outright insults on my posts are meant with the utmost respect huh? And here I thought you were just a D-bag with a grudge. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by DVing you a few times for trying to hijjack my thread and then not waiting around for your petty reply. Seems you made good use of the time by starting a thread bemoaning downvotes in such a d-baggy way that you reaped even more and realized perhaps not everyone finds you as captivating and humorous as you are in your own head. I care so little about DVs that you're one of the few not named rattler or Bamaway that I've bothered to. But if it makes you feel better I'll take them back. Didn't know you were such a sensitive type...

    Edit: my apologies to everyone for bumping this thread again. Sometimes it can be tough to remember that engaging in petty squabbles with petty people is pointless and just gives them what they want.

    Have it your way, buttchugger.

    Wow. I don't even have to try to make you look like an immature ass...you do a great job of it yourself. Difference between you and me is that I know I can be a dick and actually try to avoid it. You're either delusional as to how you come off or just don't care. I've actually lost the sliver of respect I had for you. Need a pat on the head? :)

    Between this thread and the thread where he’s tallying up all the DV’s he’s received by person, it’s becoming more and more clear who BamkWalker is. He just hasn’t posted anything memorable enough that the board at large remembers who he is.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RxDawg said:

    @dawgnms said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Now carry on as you so often state you have better things to do than read my posts..

    I'll mail you a slice of pizza if you can find a single time I've made that remark - to anyone. Saying you have better things to do while posting on a forum like this is a head scratcher. If so, wouldn't you be doing those things? Crediting me with that remark makes me think you've got me lumped in with a couple different people. With me it's very much "reap what you sow". Tired of the squabble? I think that's great, but actions speak louder than words.

    Oh, I'm sorry..your TLDRs or outright insults on my posts are meant with the utmost respect huh? And here I thought you were just a D-bag with a grudge. Sorry if I hurt your feelings by DVing you a few times for trying to hijjack my thread and then not waiting around for your petty reply. Seems you made good use of the time by starting a thread bemoaning downvotes in such a d-baggy way that you reaped even more and realized perhaps not everyone finds you as captivating and humorous as you are in your own head. I care so little about DVs that you're one of the few not named rattler or Bamaway that I've bothered to. But if it makes you feel better I'll take them back. Didn't know you were such a sensitive type...

    Edit: my apologies to everyone for bumping this thread again. Sometimes it can be tough to remember that engaging in petty squabbles with petty people is pointless and just gives them what they want.

    Have it your way, buttchugger.

    Lmao

    In my head I imagined the Kenny Powers/Danny McBride from East Bound and Down saying it.

    Ha! That's how it was meant, too. I was even having a PBR at the time.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited January 2019

    @scooterdawg said:

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

    I’m sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read an Off Topic thread. Thanks for taking the time to comment though. /s. BTW people, I posted this under Off Topic, stated numerous times that I realized it was petty on my part to do so, and put stuff in such as “I’m sure it states in the terms of service” in my replies. You don’t like me or my opinion? Great...didn’t force anyone to read it and by taking the time to leave a sh$tty reply you’re being just as petty as me.

    Just as petty? Think about what was in your heart when you originally posted. The post is a deliberate effort to intentionally harm someone's business because you apparently don't think you need to follow their rules. Think about that. You're probably someone who leaves mostly negative reviews on Yelp, too.

    I met Kipp 15 years ago. He's a nice guy, and has a family just like the rest of us. Choose to spend your money elsewhere if you want, but trying to convince others not to is a sign of a dark personality.

    Saying you "know you can be a dick but try to avoid it" in the same thread you started with purely negative intent is a wee bit intellectually dishonest, no?

  • MIghtydawgMIghtydawg Posts: 984 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is the perfect example of what is wrong with America. Most people would just simply cancel their membership and chose not to give a business money. However, because of social media and message boards, everyone think that their opinion matters and needs to be heard. Then when they get offended that no one really cares about their opinion, they try to get other people to harm a business or individual. If all you bring to a board is disagreement and criticism instead of thoughts and insights, the board is better off without you.

  • scooterdawgscooterdawg Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

    I’m sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read an Off Topic thread. Thanks for taking the time to comment though. /s. BTW people, I posted this under Off Topic, stated numerous times that I realized it was petty on my part to do so, and put stuff in such as “I’m sure it states in the terms of service” in my replies. You don’t like me or my opinion? Great...didn’t force anyone to read it and by taking the time to leave a sh$tty reply you’re being just as petty as me.

    Just as petty? Think about what was in your heart when you originally posted. The post is a deliberate effort to intentionally harm someone's business because you apparently don't think you need to follow their rules. Think about that. You're probably someone who leaves mostly negative reviews on Yelp, too.

    I met Kipp 15 years ago. He's a nice guy, and has a family just like the rest of us. Choose to spend your money elsewhere if you want, but trying to convince others not to is a sign of a dark personality.

    Saying you "know you can be a dick but try to avoid it" in the same thread you started with purely negative intent is a wee bit intellectually dishonest, no?

    And you're not being intellectually dishonest by making a point to repeatedly be a dick just because you dislike me due to your opinions on my beliefs? The difference between you and me is that I don't agree with you but I also don't seek out your posts to just be petty or think that you're **** or worthy of being insulted just because we don't share the same opinions.

    LOL@ you saying you think DVing is rude in your pity party thread. Seeing as how I wasn't even close to being on top of your list of people who have downvoted you, what is your excuse for trolling me? Seems like maybe you're the "snowflake" who can't separate your dislike for me enough to not be a dick. I haven't downvoted anyone or been a dick to anyone who disagreed with me in a civil manner. Just douches like you.

    I'm touched that Kipp has a family but as "his check comes from CBS" he apparently isn't worried about it. I'm sure your continuing to show your ass is purely for altruistic reasons because you're such an obviously compassionate sort. OH NOES...THINK ABOUT THE KIDS!

    Now go back to yelling at kids to get off your lawn and find someone else to troll as I'm done giving you whatever satisfaction you seem to get from being an obvious dick. Your life must be as boring as mine. At least I have an excuse.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MIghtydawg said:
    This is the perfect example of what is wrong with America. Most people would just simply cancel their membership and chose not to give a business money. However, because of social media and message boards, everyone think that their opinion matters and needs to be heard. Then when they get offended that no one really cares about their opinion, they try to get other people to harm a business or individual. If all you bring to a board is disagreement and criticism instead of thoughts and insights, the board is better off without you.

    I love how you wrap yourself in the flag and then make remarks entirely antithetical to one of the most important American values, freedom of speech.

    And while you’re doing this you’re completely doing what you’re complaining about other people doing. Why does your opinion matter that you don’t like scooter’s post, but scooter’s opinion doesn’t matter? Is it because you’re a hypocrite?

  • RedFiveRedFive Posts: 99 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @scooterdawg said:

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

    I’m sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read an Off Topic thread. Thanks for taking the time to comment though. /s. BTW people, I posted this under Off Topic, stated numerous times that I realized it was petty on my part to do so, and put stuff in such as “I’m sure it states in the terms of service” in my replies. You don’t like me or my opinion? Great...didn’t force anyone to read it and by taking the time to leave a sh$tty reply you’re being just as petty as me.

    Fair enough.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited January 2019

    @scooterdawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    And you're not being intellectually dishonest by making a point to repeatedly be a dick just because you dislike me due to your opinions on my beliefs? The difference between you and me is that I don't agree with you but I also don't seek out your posts to just be petty ......

    Oh, really? That would so beneath you, right? So what did you mean when you said, "I just enjoy riling up such obvious shills as this guy..." if not to be a petty little redheaded soldier?

    How many times do you plan on saying, "I'm done" only to jump right back in? I said I was happy to let it go, but then here you come again, and again., and again. In the very same thread.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited January 2019

    @Bankwalker said:

    @scooterdawg said:

    @RedFive said:

    @scooterdawg said:
    Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.

    My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.

    So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:


    I’m gonna buy a membership just because I wasted time reading this crying nonsense. Try reading a user agreement every now and then.

    I’m sorry for holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read an Off Topic thread. Thanks for taking the time to comment though. /s. BTW people, I posted this under Off Topic, stated numerous times that I realized it was petty on my part to do so, and put stuff in such as “I’m sure it states in the terms of service” in my replies. You don’t like me or my opinion? Great...didn’t force anyone to read it and by taking the time to leave a sh$tty reply you’re being just as petty as me.

    Just as petty? Think about what was in your heart when you originally posted. The post is a deliberate effort to intentionally harm someone's business because you apparently don't think you need to follow their rules. Think about that. You're probably someone who leaves mostly negative reviews on Yelp, too.

    I met Kipp 15 years ago. He's a nice guy, and has a family just like the rest of us. Choose to spend your money elsewhere if you want, but trying to convince others not to is a sign of a dark personality.

    Saying you "know you can be a dick but try to avoid it" in the same thread you started with purely negative intent is a wee bit intellectually dishonest, no?

    Okay, so now people aren’t supposed to say whether or not they like a product on the market because 15 years ago, BankWalker met the person providing the service and thinks he’s a nice guy...

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