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My experience with Dawgs247/247sports
scooterdawg
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Just thought I’d share my experience in being a paid 247 member. I’ve mentioned it before but I signed up for a “trial” account in the week leading up to ESD. To be fair, I looked and was aware that it wasn’t going to be just a matter of clicking a button to unsubscribe, though of course that’s all it takes to subscribe. According to 247sports in the fine print you must call a 1-800 number or send an email during normal business hours requesting cancellation. Now I personally think that this policy is intentionally set up to squeeze an extra payment out of people by making it a PITA, but as I said I researched enough to find this out so it is what it is and I’m considering contacting the Better Business Bureau to let them know how they run their business.
My main issue with the site, outside of my personal opinions on the Dawgs247 main writers and their biases, is that I have posted under 20 times on the Junkyard board yet have had posts deleted/been banned multiple times with zero explanation. In the description of what you’re buying with a subscription is included premium access to your teams board. I guess that means be able to read what others have posted or whatever you post that agrees completely with the moderators as my comments that led to being banned were mildly critical of Kipp Adams. By mildly critical I mean as to his opinions/how he does his job. Nothing personal and honestly a hell of a lot gentler than much of the pushback Chip or Griff get on this forum.
So anyway, I thought I’d post an exchange between Kipp Adams(one of the two main writers for Dawgs247 and the one who has banned me). In the interest of full disclosure I’m posting the whole thing even though the initial message from me was made when I was pissed off so may seem petty:
Comments
Sorry, slightly out of order but I don’t feel like trying to edit as it was enough of a PITA to post them in the first place.
@JeffSentell @MikeGriffith, @DawgNationDaily
BTW, I’m self aware enough to realize that part of my reason for posting this is pettiness on my part, but I also thought any prospective subscribers should know how much or little their business is valued. It’s like Adams doesn’t realize that the recruiting industry or his job wouldn’t even exist if people like myself and others weren’t willing to pay for it.
Obviously customer service isn’t the guy’s job but if he’s that tone deaf maybe he shouldn’t be interacting with members. Anyone else agree?
The only thing I pay for is The Athletic. These subscription sites seem like they can offer good insider info, but it always seems to matriculate here soon enough. But with the Athletic I'm paying for good writing and no ads. With my experience, on the pay sites like Rivals and 247...the info trumps the prose. But that's just me
Sorry, TLDR-DABI..........
Dabi?
or,
Dabis? From urbandictionary. com
To be EXTREMELY intoxicated from the use of alcohol or drugs.
To bring to a specific state by drinking alcoholic liquors, or other drugs.
Either drunk, or under the influence of alcohol. Usually to a large extent. Unable to think correctly, move correctly, or act normaly because of the influence of the substances.
Beyond exhausted, so much so that one appears to be **** tired. Symptons include staring into space, taking hours to respond to simple questions, pausing randomly inbetween words, walking unsteadily, falling asleep standing up, and generally acting tired and spaced-out.
"That dude is so dabis, confirm. He can hardly stand up."
"I took 3 hits of acid and I'm soo dabis."
"I bought 1 **** of fai chai yesterday, but I can't remember where is it. Dabis, confirm."
"OMG! I'm so DABIS right now."
Drank A Beer Instead......DABI........
Dabis is in the right ballpark. 😉
@scooterdawg thanks for the insight, I’ve been considering joining since last ESD and have held off. He seems remarkably tone deaf. Just because his checks come from CBS doesn’t mean they wouldn’t stop if the site stopped being profitable, so you’d think that some form of customer service would be a prerequisite for the job.
I think I’ll pass on a subscription, I love this forum and all of its contributors and posters (even the quirky ones). Besides my wife would probably kill me if I spent more time reading about football, but then again she would get the insurance payout so who knows?
Thanks for sharing your experience @scooterdawg. Last month I was considering a subscription to 247 or the Athletic-- glad I didn't choose 247! Funny how Kipp just spouts credentials rather than address your issue...
LOL, don't blame ya for TLDR but i also was wondering what an anime character had to do with anything. I can get behind your clarification though!
247 dawgs is a good site and is worth the 9.99 a month but only if u are a hardcore recruitnik, rusty is a good dude and does his job well. Dawgnation is also a wonderful site and @JeffSentell does a wonderful job with his sentell intel pieces.
From my experience Rusty is fine. Kipp on the other hand seems to take himself too seriously. Gets pissy if anyone questions him, and I was far from the only one to do so. But, to each their own and everyone's mileage may vary.
To be fair to them, I'm sure it says in the terms of service that they can ban or delete anyone's comments at their discretion. I started the whole communication because I tried to just comment on an article today and found out i was banned or blacklisted or whatever again. I had commented once on whichever day they released the end of year rankings questioning them moving Nolan down and the Bama guy to #1. I questioned why 247 did this but didn't even mention Kipp by name.
It's also annoying that I've been banned/blacklisted several times yet not once was I given a reason why or told that I even was. Only found out when I wasn't allowed to post or comment. The first time was in one of Kipp's daylong Q&A threads and he posted that I should enjoy my vacation. No message saying you have been banned for this or how long. the current ban or whatever I was not informed of at all.
Personally I don't enjoy typing something out to have it deleted w/o warning or explanation because a guy is mad that I questioned his judgement a few times. Especially not when it's a site I'm paying $ for and the only explanation I get after asking for one is that "they can do whatever they want...no big deal...you don't pay our checks anyway".
Thanks scooter, I was considering paying. Definitely a hard pass now.
@scooterdawg do you have a screenshot of the post that got deleted? I’d love to know what they think is worth deleting and giving a suspension for...
Scooter, yeah. You need to get out of there. Taking time to complain about a company who clearly doesn’t care... You didn’t come across well.
But it was weird Kipp kept saying he’s paid by CBS. Made me think he’s not proud of the 247 brand.
And the “we can ban/delete for any reason we want, it’s our business”. Why the hell would anyone take time out of their day to post on that board if that’s their attitude?
What’s messed up is that even though you clearly should have already quit that board and didn’t come across well, Kipp didn’t come across any better. And he may have come across worse.
Just leave those people be. They seem miserable enough already. Don’t make it any worse for them.