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Former Hawks Kyle Korver

SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

Posted interesting read that touches on his perceptions of privilege and what it means in society today. This read resonated with me, and I thought it worth sharing...

My intent is not to start a political debate. Just read and think about it...no comments needed.


  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2019

    That is a very thoughtful article by KK.

    Let's face it, there are many who will knee jerk side with cops unless they attack a white Baptist minister or something. Then there are those who think cops are always wrong. I still can't believe anybody could think the killing of the Martin kid was anything less than 1st degree manslaughter. What has come out about the shooter since makes me reasonably sure it was premeditated murder, but I digress.

    It pisses me off when I read about some NBA player double parking his Bentley in a handicap zone, there shouldn't be a privileged class in this country, but there is of course. If the mill worker's son gets in some moderate trouble, the likelihood he'll get the same treatment as the bank manager's son is very small. Sometimes it's race, often it's an unspoken caste system where green and associations dictate how you're treated.

    I could go on, but my dog is barking at something, if it's that **** banker pissing on my lawn again we're gonna rumble.

  • bigdawg2223bigdawg2223 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I can’t believe I’m going to say this but @WCDawg you’re right on the money. I was trying not to comment because the OP said there was no need. Is there racism in this country? Absolutely, there’s also classism and sexism. I also don’t think it can be fixed with monetary reparations as some are calling for which I think is ridiculous. The only way it can really be fixed is by communicating with one another and having an open mind. I think for the most part the middle class folks of all races get along really well with the exception of few even when there’s different view points on things. There used to be an upper middle and lower class in this country now it’s upper lower and poverished. There’s this lower upper class that I think the systematic racism comes from the middle and upper upper class think nobody is equal to them. And the media and government are making it a race thing to take your eyes away from that so that the people don’t unify and take them out of power, them being the “Haves”. There’s good and bad people of all different backgrounds and like the fighting in the Middle East you’re always going to have it. I’m one of the middle lower class I drive a truck making 65k a year and my wife is a school teacher in NC and we have it better than most but no where as good as we should. I disagree with Korver that we’re responsible you can’t be responsible for something unless you directly contribute to it. I have to ask what was his background why would his first thought be “why was he at a club?” I would have been wondering what happened? To group an entire race of people in a category is really unfair to those people as individuals. And yes that idiot should have gotten first degree manslaughter at a minimum, especially when dispatch tells you not to approach the person. He escalated that situation he never should have approached Travon Martin.

    sorry I know it’s really long and nobody will probably read it.

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,758 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Read the article. Have lots of thoughts. 🙂

  • PeepDawgPeepDawg Posts: 17 ✭✭ Sophomore
    edited April 2019

    I’m a long time lurker, so this is my first ever post/comment on the forum. I just wanted to say it’s really nice to see people’s take this subject, whether you agree or disagree it’s super cool to see you guys voice your opinions and not be jerks to each other because of different positions on things. I just wanted to say something because it weirdly made me happy to see. I’ll try and comment more but I’ll just probably continue to lurk. #GoDawgs 🐶🔴⚫️

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,758 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Nice post @PeepDawg. It's not perfect in here, but definitely better than Facebook and the Twitterverse.

  • LincolnParkDawgLincolnParkDawg Posts: 346 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    SoFL Dawg - what a great post. Kyle Korver is not only talented but also genuine. Coming out of Creighton he excelled at his role in the NBA as a 3-point specialist. I was at the Hawks game the night before the incident in NY with Thabo. He had a good game in ATL. I couldn’t see how he could have that kind of a game, fly to NY and be out late into the next day and still play, or plan on playing. No way the police were justified in breaking his leg and I’m glad he reached a settlement with the city.

  • law_dawg35law_dawg35 Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Jussie Smollett single handedly destroyed the notion of white privilege.

    If a white man had of done what he did and then had all the charges dropped this nation would of implode.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 6,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is from a study on perception of white men vs black men, "When participants believed the man in the images is black, they generally saw the man as larger, more threatening, and potentially more harmful in an altercation than a white person. And they were more likely to say use of force was justified against the black men than the white men." Now here is an example of how this manifests in real life, "Consider the 2014 Cleveland police shooting of 12-year old Tamir Rice: After he was killed, the officers involved reported that they thought Rice was 20. While it’s impossible to get into these cops’ heads to see what they were thinking, it’s possible they genuinely believed Rice was older because they saw Rice as bigger than he really was." This is just one example of white privilege and I can find more if you like. I'm not sure how Smollett causes this to go away? Yeah Smollet is an asshole, and I wish he would have been prosecuted and sent to jail. The head of police completely mismanaged the case. He lambasted Smollett on Good Morning America and publicly said the cops were pissed at him. He overplayed his hand and tainted the jury pool by trying him in the court of public opinion instead of a court of law. Even though Smollett is guilty as hell he would not have been able to receive a fair trial and his defense would have eviscerated Chicago for it.

  • ThelordjohnsonThelordjohnson Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    As a African American it had nothing to do with racial privilege. It was his sexual background and the corruption of Chicago PD. I believe he was guilty and deserved some punishment but it was money and sexuality that helped him.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 6,986 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    We're all just guessing but the cops were definitely not on his side, and honestly no one was on his side because they are still going after him for civil damages. I wish they would unseal the court documents for actual answers though.

  • ziggyholidayziggyholiday Posts: 492 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think this recent trend of acknowledging one's privilege is just a tool by some to unperson people. Many times over the last two years, commentators on national news programs have used "that's easy for you to say because of your privilege" in order to ignore a point someone was making. I'm more interested in the merit of an idea, rather than who it came from.

    Born in 79, the county I grew up in was "majority minority" and spent 20 years in the Army. I've always heard and believed that the color of someone's skin doesn't matter. In 2019, it's considered racists to not acknowledge race. I really don't understand progressives.

    "But in many ways the more dangerous form of racism isn’t that loud and **** kind. It isn’t the kind that announces itself when it walks into the arena. It’s the quiet and subtle kind. The kind that almost hides itself in plain view. It’s the person who does and says all the “right” things in public: They’re perfectly friendly when they meet a person of color. They’re very polite. But in private? Well….. they sort of wish that everyone would stop making everything “about race” all the time.

    It’s the kind of racism that can seem almost invisible — which is one of the main reasons why it’s allowed to persist."

    It's racist to think, in private, that you wish people would stop making everything about race. That's how crazy it is today.

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