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Braves Ongoing Season Comments Thread..

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm sure he's had a hit in an important spot, but nothing comes to mind.

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    MuffingodMuffingod Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    When Cinci’s coach walked out to the mound I told my wife that he’s probably telling him not to worry, it’s just Flowers and he’ll swing at just about anything.

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    IwantburchIwantburch Posts: 398 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I get bmac is old and can’t llay everyday, but can we at least get him a reliable backup

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    donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    the team as a whole isn't hitting very consistently and certainly not with RISP. Hope this funk doesn't last much longer. Wasting some pretty good pitching.

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    amjadawgsamjadawgs Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    MuffingodMuffingod Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well Greene hasn’t gotten off to a good start...

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2019

    dammmm ! it looks like we downgraded from Jackson. 0 for f...ing 2. His pitches look like batting practice tosses from a 60 year old coach. I wonder if Smoltz has anything left in the tank ?

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    swilkerson73swilkerson73 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Greene hasn't looked good but with a 1.1 something ERA he had when he came here he was due to regress a bit. Just a shame it had to happen now.

    I think he will be fine and if he isnt he can move to another role and Melancon can close.

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    MuffingodMuffingod Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I admit I don’t watch much outside of the Braves but when they made the trade and someone (you?) listed his stats I was excited. Not looking like the pitcher I thought we were going to get, hopefully it’s just jitters from trying to do too much to prove he’s good to his new teammates.

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    MuffingodMuffingod Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What the Flowers, where did that come from!!!

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2019

    This has been an exceptional season for Greene. He hasn't been close to as good stat wise before this year. Still, he must be letting the trade get to him. The Braves have had MANY nervous closers over the years.

    We can only hope he gets over this soon.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    There is a load of room between a 1.18 ERA and absolutely being terrible. One of our announcers said he's making his pitches, he's just getting too much of the plate. What the duck does that even mean ? If throwing flat 90 MPH pitches waist high down the center of the plate is making his pitches, what does it look like when he's missing ?

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    LD10LD10 Posts: 434 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    4 for 35 RISP in series pathetic...

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    MuffingodMuffingod Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think it was one of those filler comments, kind of like “Well John, I think the team with the most points at the end of the game will win” nonsense so there isn’t silence. And they don’t bash the guy, which is good job security for the home team announcers.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Luckily both Washington and Philly lost today, so we sort of got a mulligan.

    We go to Minn. next and face the #1 team in MLB in hitting HRs.

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    swilkerson73swilkerson73 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I watched the game last night with the blown save

    A few of those balls were bloop hits

    It happens.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I wasn't able to watch yesterday's game, he was awful today though. When you throw 12 out of 13 pitches for strikes, you're not a power pitcher and most of them are flat, fat and down the middle, you're going to get hammered 9 out of 10 games.

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    GeorgiaGirlGeorgiaGirl Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Greene is a quality pitcher that we actually targeted over the offseason (and couldn't get then, also may have tried for Castellanos too but the deal fell apart) because we saw something in his arsenal that could make him better, and he implemented it this year (throwing more cutters).

    However he never was a true talent 1.18 ERA pitcher. He had a .181 BABIP this year in Detroit, and he's moved to a team that slipped big time in being able to prevent infield grounders from becoming base hits. I can't dig up the numbers exactly (I think last year we were at .218 on grounders becoming base hits, but this year it's .270?), but compared to last year which I know was top 5-10, this year the Braves are bottom 5-10 in preventing grounders from becoming base hits. Luke shouldn't be closer, but with stats like those floating around, some guys might have to admit he wasn't "that" big of a problem.

    Melancon also isn't what he used to be in 2013-2016. You can almost argue that arsenal wise and ability, the pitchers that we acquired, it goes Martin/Greene/Melancon.

    tl;dr:

    This is a hint to not get on the pitching coach here on Greene. We should be happy tbh if he ends up pitching to a 3 ERA ROS.

    Also, Martin maybe should close. He had closing experience in Texas and Japan, which while Japan is a step down, it still has great crowds.

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    KirbstomperKirbstomper Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is the right answer. Didn’t watch today, but yesterday he gave up that run without anyone hitting it hard on him. Just bad bapip luck.

    And anyone thinking he is a true talent 1.18 era guy is misinformed. He is good, not elite but good. We should be happy we have him, even if he has started off rocky.

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