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Clemson 2019 vs UCF 2017

dgd829dgd829 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
edited December 2019 in Off Topic

Clemson will be 13-0 with 0 wins over teams in the final CFP Top 25.

UCF 2017 had 2 wins over teams in the final CFP Top 25. (Both Memphis, and Memphis only 2 losses of the year)

UCF was @ 12 headed into the bowl season in 2017.

Clemson is a lock into the CFP because they play in a P5 conference.

definitely would be pissed if I was a UCF fan rn.



  • texdawgtexdawg Posts: 11,444 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I certainly see your point. But in all honesty.....does anyone think that Clemson isn't one of the 4 best teams in the country?

    Did anyone think that UCF was one of the 4 best in 2017?

    May not be fair.......but it's probably right.

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Dabo can’t help that the rest of the Acc stinks. Say what you will but Clemson has handled their business

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Interesting take and something to chew on. UCF won a ring though in 2017 right?

  • tfk_fanboytfk_fanboy Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    scheduled two SEC teams

    winning games by 45 points

    not the same thing as UCF

  • brady01brady01 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Reigning national champs as well.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    this thread is coming across as mighty disrespectful....there are group of 5 teams that have tougher schedules....The clemson model inside the current system values scheduling equal to recruiting.

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Disrespectful to whom? Most of the comments here seem to acknowledge Clemson is legit...

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    failed sarcasm

  • Huntindawg81Huntindawg81 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well, they didnt lose to South Carolina, so there's that.

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Dumm thread IMO.

    Clemson beat SC and A&M, they are the reigning champs, and their roster is loaded with talent.

    They are potentially the best team in college football.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2019

    schedule matters....getting bloody every week takes a toll...most teams are half punch drunk with sore knuckles and ribs from fighting with (mostly) the big kids... for 12 weeks....clemson is healthy and ready to fight....they should be...even without tiger juice....if they get to skate every yr to the playoff ....thats a massive recruiting tool....at this rate we do away with conferences and schedule by lottery.

  • WtkWtk Posts: 450 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Clemson has won two NC in the last four years. They have proved you can be the best team regardless of who you play in season.

  • oddsbodkinoddsbodkin Posts: 176 ✭✭✭ Junior

    ACC is a clown conference. Clemson and Dabo should rightfully be ashamed of their pathetic schedule.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Alabama beat SC and A&M, they were champs of yrs past as well, and their roster is loaded with talent.

    They are potentially the best team in college football.

    but they won't be in the playoff.... simply because they played better teams....not necessarily more talented teams but teams close enough in talent that mistakes cost you the win. clemson is playing a "championship" against a team not ranked in the top 20.

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2019

    If Clemson played LSU, OSU, UGA, Bama, OK, or Utah...

    Would you play Russian Rolette with a live .44 magnum on a bet against Clemson?

    I wouldn't...Also don't be shocked when TL hoists the trophy again.

    Edit - Oh...Your post is similarly dumm given that Bama is a 2 loss team.

  • dgd829dgd829 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The point is that while Clemson is talented, they don't have to face the same level of competition week in week out.

    A couple injuries because facing more physical teams week in week out, and Clemson would be toast.

    Their toughest games (A&M & USC) are UGA & Bama's 4th or 5th toughest.

    Having to go undefeated in the SEC every season is extremely tough, and all teams in the SEC have talent on the LOS.

    Clemson could go 12-0 in the SEC, but they'd probably have at least 1 loss.

    Especially in the years prior when they were building this dynasty.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    pick any nfl team.... put them in the socon.... do they deserve to get in just because they merk erry team they face and everyone knows it ....or should they have to earn it ....thats the argument here.....but right now you dont have to earn it....and clemson is going to rack up playoff spots...im not hating ....they are working inside the system in more ways than one...but its working.

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I understand everyone's reluctance to accept Clemson based off SoS but remember they're killing the SEC right now. They've recently beaten Bama, SC, A&M, and Auburn.

    2016 - 2019 Clemson is 10-1 vs SEC with the only loss being against Bama in the Sugar Bowl.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2019

    usc used 2 b really good 2...should they get in?

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate


    What in TF are you talking about?

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