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What I am really curious about is why Italy is so far off the charts compared to everyone else. It's too early to really know the reason, but nobody else in Europe is getting hit as hard as Italy. China didn't even get hit that hard. One thing I do know is that once this is over, nothing will be the same. This will have a 9/11 type of impact on global health conditions. China is in a lot of trouble. This was the wake-up call.
i think he may have meant it's not worth it to vape in general. Not it's not worth it to say vaping is bad.
Please explain how vaping pertains to what this thread is about?
Smoking/vaping weaken lungs. Puts one more at risk of complications is how it pertains.
So do other things that put people more at risk. Not just vaping. Lets stay on topic as @Kasey has asked numerous times.
Wasn't discussing. You asked a question. I simply answered it.
Gotcha...makes sense. Probably not worth it in either context.
There are a number of issues specific to Italy, they include:
I also agree with you about the long-term global impact of how we function as individuals and as a society: the ripple effect of this pandemic will change many things in the future (for better and worse).
Spain is also pretty bad. From what I've read it's from the hospitals being overwhelmed. Not enough ventilators to go around so medical ethicists having to decide who gets to live and die. New York seems to be close to this point.
Edit: @razorachilles makes good points to why Italy specifically has such high death rates. Spain has a high median age as well which may be contributing to high amounts of hospitalizations.
One of the things that is kind of terrifying is that back when all of this was first starting millions of people fled Wuhan. Where they went...??? I wonder how many went to NYC? Might explain why NY has about 20Xs the confirmed cases as any other state.
https://www.businessinsider.com/5-million-left-wuhan-before-coronavirus-quarantine-2020-1
Cuomo and DeBlasio also both kept harping on testing rather than prepping the hospitals. Now everyone went in for a test when they should’ve stayed home. More testing will reveal more cases.
I think nyc would have higher count regardless, but the testing push is what drove this high number imo
"Escaping the outbreak may have been the cause for some people fleeing the city. But it also coincided with the Lunar New Year, China's most important holiday in which city workers return to their hometowns.
Lunar New Year is the largest annual human migration, with Chinese citizens making a combined 3 billion trips during the season.
Chinese workers get a week off work, from January 24-30. For many, it's the only time they get to go home during the year, which may explain the desperation to leave Wuhan in the face of an impending quarantine."
Yeah testing needs to be done in a smart way. Either at home or drive thru testing. The greater Seattle area is trying an at home testing kit, so we'll see if that works. My only concern is people doing the swab wrong, or messing up some other part of the test. It's hard to make anything idiot proof.