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A new Georgia law paves way to pay college athletes

SystemSystem Posts: 4,306 admin
edited May 7 in General
imageA new Georgia law paves way to pay college athletes

Georgia governor Brian Kemp signed a bill that will pave the way for athletes to paid through their Name, Image and Likeness. The bill is set to go into effect starting July 1.

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  • DawgTattooDawgTattoo Posts: 245 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I have mixed emotions about this. On one hand, I have never liked the idea that college athletes are exploited and don't benefit from the use of their NIL. On the other hand, what about the not-so-glamorous position players, like the linemen, linebackers, etc? It seems to me that the only players to benefit from this law are the QBs, RBs and WRs. I don't know what the solution to this would be, unless all the players share equally.

  • tommieleetommielee Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Pay them, then deduct what it cost for room and board, books, tutors, and etc; One of my grand daughters will graduate from UGA this month with two degrees, she had scholarships, but it still cost thousands of dollars for 4 full years of her education. You can argue till the cows come home about compensation, the players are compensated. Figure it out, what it cost to attend UGA as a regular student. Then figure out most of these athletes never have to worry about paying even one dime out of pocket to attend school. And don't get me started about, well they can't take their girl friend on a date because they don't have the money to do that, but they have the money to pay out for tattoos. The tattoo parlors at Athens and other college towns are well compensated by the athletes there.

  • DawgTattooDawgTattoo Posts: 245 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I understand what you're saying. The athletes are not only on scholarship, they also are paid a stipend. I don't know how much, but probably around $4000 a year. But what you are not considering is that UGA makes millions off these athletes. Sure they get a free education, but the University makes far more money from football revenue than they pay out in scholarships.

  • IowadawgfanIowadawgfan Posts: 44 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Here’s the deal when people say that the university makes millions off these kids for there performances.. that is true but your job makes millions off you everyday so should I get way more then what you get , maybe lol but your compensated to do a job , these kids are compensated to do a job , now on the other hand if these kids can make money off there name like endorsements commercials so forth let it be

  • donmedeirosdonmedeiros Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • DawgBiscuitDawgBiscuit Posts: 333 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Opinion from Old School Dude who played in the 1960's:

    I don't understand the fuss about players NOT getting anything ($$$) for selling their jerseys, and other stuff. Aren't they given scholarship for 4 yrs of college education, free food, free housing, free fitness/workout site with latest/greatest equipment and personal coach/trainer?

    What rules/laws are in place to prevent players being paid to lose a game for $$$ ☹ ???

    We played because of our love of the game. Wonder what happened?

  • emanresuemanresu Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    About time the players r able to b paid LEGALLY since everyone else associated with the Football team is including and ESPECIALLY the Coaches and their families. U think Dan Lanning, Kirby and the rest of Georgias C9aches r willing to do this for free? Well why expect the very people that are generating the revenue not b allowed to get paid? I mean u sound................ Well nevermind, I think that u know how u sound. 😎😎😎

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    Just a point of view that seems missing here...

    95% of athletic programs LOSE money every year. There was only like 9 athletic programs that worked in the black BEFORE COVID. 9 out of 100's and 100's of programs.

    To make this a legit conversation, we need to widen our view. Capitalism drives coaches salaries, not revenue. Most schools take on a great deal of debt to pay those guys, and can only afford to do so with boosters pumping in millions. Those margins are supported by Dr. Booster writing a check just as much as CBS, ESPN, or ticket sales...

    This is not a typical business model. If it were, all but 9 of them would be forced to file bankruptcy, would dissolve - killing the engine that makes the 9 money. The TV money, the coaches salaries, all these "millions" that everyone refer to are actually spread about to support the OTHER programs at OTHER schools. Football and basketball help fund EVERYTHING else.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    What you're not considering is why UGA is making millions. They're also investing a lot of that back into the program and kids. But I digress, UGA is making millions because it's the most popular amatuer sport in the world except for maybe the Olympics. There's a reason college football is so popular. And I fear they're pissing that away. And the players had it so dang good too...

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 20,014 mod

    you definitely bring some good points beyond what others who are against this do. Thanks for making me think twice about the whole paying the players.

    I think there's some things they could do to utilize their notoriety without turning into boosters trying to outbid each other for player's services. like Hot Rod could have better utilized his popularity while in college but the NCAA said he couldn't. I feel like there are some gray areas there that could be explored.

    There were companies making money off of Blankenship by making t-shirts and he wasn't getting any of it. That is something that could be fixed here.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Redistributing money EARNED by the football program to other UNSUCCESSFUL programs that can't pull their weight? Textbook Marxist Socialism that incentivizes laziness and stifles innovation and work ethic. Turn off the football welfare spigot to incentivize the freeloaders to work harder.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    Just checking...

    I feel like you're reading from a script that doesn't fit a logical, reasonable path of discussion here...

    Sarcasm? Or are you really an unapologetic die-hard capitalist (a.k.a multi-millionaires who kill puppies for a dollar)? Any strict adherence to an economical ideology is ignorantly simplistic at best, and irrationally unrealistic in the real world. But I feel you know that, so I am wondering what "bear" you are trying to poke here...

    Of course, college sports aren't a true free market or a true socialist utopia - so any comparison of a capitalistic or socialist idealogy to the complex, multi-layered system in place is just ignorant, shallow, and plain silly... especially for a Yale guy...

    I just can't for the life of me figure out who you are trying to piss off...

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    Football payers at big D1 schools provide a product that consumers pay for. The broadcasters get paid, the NCAA gets paid, coaches and staff get paid, and school administrators get paid. Let's apply the love of the game and free college logic to all those groups as well. I wonder how long they would stick around. Why do they get to reap the benefits of a "free market" but not the players?

    Edit: sounds like the players get Marxism and everyone else gets capitalism. "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others."

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    Broadcasters - have a college degree, work experience, and they are the elite of the elite at their profession. Just a fraction of these positions compared to the number of college athletes...

    The "NCAA?" Not sure who that is. Are you referring to the individuals who work for the NCAA? Most of them make very little. There are a few, highly educated elites (most with advanced degrees) with tons of work experience who make a lot of money.

    Coaches - all college graduates. Thousands and thousands of them out there with years and years of experience who are making very little. Only the elite of the elite "get paid," meaning they make the money that most people complain about. For most programs in the NCAA, if you took the entire coaching staff's salary and split it up amongst the roster, that turns out to be very, very little money per kid.

    Staff - Well, the medical staff's are incredibly educated, and making normal medical wages.

    Athletic Administration - high educated, multi-degreed individuals who have worked their way up. Very few high paying jobs here. Most worked long hours for years to get there.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So, the "capitalists..."

    They all are EDUCATED - have a degree. And have worked for YEARS to rise up the profession.

    Now, let's remove the highly educated, highly skilled people we are paying from the process - Coaches, staff, broadcasters, compliance company, school administration, and see how much the "football players" would make with their "skill." How many of them would make life-changing money without the "system" in place to prepare them for the NFL?

    Remove the college football system, and let's see who makes it. Let's have a minor league football system. A small percentage, like 1%, make it, with the other 99% ending up uneducated, unskilled high-school graduates, looking for a place to go to pay to go to school.

    The present system EDUCATES (or attempts to educate) the roster and prepare them for life after college. The skills of the elite few GENERATES the revenue for the entire system to exist. The elite need the average. The average need the elite.

    Multi-layered, multi-faceted system with tons of working parts - all needed each other to exist.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    I'm referring to the entire broadcast station as in CBS or ESPN not the individual commentators.

    NCAA makes money off TV broadcast deals.

    I specifically mentioned big D1 schools that bring in viewers. You're strawmanning by talking about smaller schools when I never mentioned them.

    You're argument comes across as the highly educated and well connected elites of society are ENTITLED to the money generated by college players after they put in long hours training and practicing to provide an amazing product. Is this what you meant?

    Edit: or are you critiquing the entire system and saying the revenue should be more evenly distributed to everyone that makes top college games possible?

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 10

    If there was an easy answer, an easy fix, an easy way to give the kids more, without hurting the competitive balance (ex. killing the golden goose), without bankrupting small colleges, while still supporting the colleges (and the college programs inside of those colleges) that they represent, someone would have done it.

    Everyone loves the idea of everyone getting "the money they deserve" (excuse me while I gag...). But the Law if Unintended Consequences is real, and that check will come due...

    I cheer for the guys who wear a G on their helmet. That G represents an institution. That institution represents where I was born. Therefore, I cheer for ideals. A whole lot of people watch a football game because "Georgia" is playing, first and foremost. Without the G on the helmet, they are not watching. That idea is bigger to most than a skill some 19 year old may possess, and all this cash associated with college sports will follow the G, not the individual skill. We root for ideals. It's polyanna-ish, but I feel like it is realistic.

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