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Why Herschel Walker towers above others on Georgia football Mount Rushmore, campus statue overdue

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  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    I’ll always have a special appreciation for Herschel and his fellow National Title Winning Dawgs. In Sept. of that year while on deployment my best friend was killed in the line of duty. I stood guard ( along with others in shifts) over his body. Shortly there after in Oct. another shipmate that I knew only not quite as well was killed. I came Very close to losing my own life twice on that deployment. We didn’t have internet back then. It wasn’t unusual at all to get mail that was two weeks old or even older. I found out Two Weeks after the fact that we had won the Ntl. Title when my Mama ( now gone on to be with the Lord) sent me a newspaper clipping with a pic of Herschel in the article toting the rock !! This brought some rays of sunshine into my dark world of that time. I’m very proud of Today’s Dawgs and their predecessors. Watching Herschel run was a thing of beauty though !! Go Dawgs !! P.S. After my Mama died in 2018 at the age of 89, I discovered the letter that I sent to her and Daddy ( Daddy passed away in 1993) relating about how my best friend had gotten killed, the other shipmate hadn’t got killed yet, I didn’t tell them about my situations that had happened as I didn’t want them to worry about me, I only told them about my best friend as a form of releasing some of the stress)

  • Bdw3184Bdw3184 Posts: 13,782 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thanks for your service and to all the contributors, who served our country, on this forum as well!

    Go Dawgs!

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Oh Thank You so much for your kind words and thoughts !! I echo you and also say a sincere Thank You to All our military in all branches, active duty, reserve, National Guard, and Veterans !! Also all our Law Enforcement, Fire Fighters, EMTs, Thank You !! And all our Doctors and Nurses and Healthcare Pros, Thank You !! And to all our Citizens who are Working for a living, or retired from many, many years in the work force, and those who are currently educating themselves in preparation to enter the work force, you are All contributors to our state and nation and I Thank You !! Go Dawgs !!

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't think anyone is calling him St. Herchel. LOL! He was just one of the greatest college football players of all time. If rape accusations against Presidents don't disqualify them, and lying about where you graduated in your class, then I think we could have a statue to celebrate Herchel's college football accomplishments.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    Exactly !! Agree !! A statue to celebrate his Football achievements, not his political beliefs, not his very old personal life bad decisions, where in its conveniently forgotten that At That Time he was suffering from mental health issues, And has tried as best he can to atone for his past. When I clicked on the article I had No intentions at all what so ever of going into Defense mode for Herschel. It was only After I read the politically loaded and personally malicious to Herschel comments that I got Very angry and made my comments. I readily confess I lost my temper. And probably MY comments would have been better off left unsaid. But in fairness to Herschel and Me the article was about his Football Accomplishments, Not his political aspirations Or his personal life. I don’t recall seeing a single word about his politics or his personal life issues of the waaay back past. But as with many things in our society he came under attack, for his waaay back many years ago transgressions. It should be noted that those making the malicious comments were curiously silent about how his political opponent in a Much More recent incident tried to run over his own wife and Did run over her foot as was cited by the Police Report. Or how the “Church” he is the “Pastor” of runs a slum tenament where Dead people were found Decaying on staircases, and where a USMC Veteran ( according to his testimony that is) was kicked out because he owed a small amount of rent. The facility has been cited and penalized several, several times for substandard living conditions. But as the political opponent to Herschel is a “ Reverend” and sanctioned by his “Church” I suppose little transgressions against fellow humanity is OK. Of course that same political opponent doesn’t place much value on the most vulnerable of our society, of which have little to no voice, the unborn. Of course he must have slept through the scripture that declares that God Knew us while we were Yet in our Mother’s ****. And the scripture that says it’s Better to have a millstone tied around your neck and be cast into the deepest part of the sea than to harm one of God’s little ones. Sounds like a man of impeccable character to me.🙄 So in conclusion things can get quite sticky and nasty when politics are brought up in a Sports dynamic. I wasn’t the one who initially made the decision to open that can of worms. I’m sure allot of Dawgs fans have not yet seen this article. And when they read the comments regardless of Which side or take they have it will take what I think was Meant to be a positive article and put an **** turn in it. Which is why I Requested not demanded that the article be closed, Not to suppress someone’s freedom of speech as I was Wrongly accused of. I was not the one who made the first deliberate and conscious decision to step over the line of sports into political dialogue. But when they did I have and will vigorously defend Herschel for Many reasons.

  • Oldddawg76Oldddawg76 Posts: 393 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I have to say, I'm really excited to see the social and political commentary here on a Dawgnation comment thread! There just aren't enough more appropriate venues for politics on the interwebs!

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That would be a tough 4 to pick.. So many great players over the years to choose from. Definitely Herschel, the maybe Andy Johnson, Nick Chubb, Bill Stanfill, Jake Scott, David Pollack, AJ Green, Garrison Hearst.. I'd be hard pressed to choose just 4. Mine would end up being a mountain collage lol

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    You can't spell JOKE without j-o-e..

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  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    My guess would be because the article has nothing to do with politics..only football accomplishments. Harsh words from someone who drags politics and the past up in a football forum, not suprising. I guess you've lived a perfect life huh? 🙄🙄🙄

  • jdatl3jdatl3 Posts: 483 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    Sorry Navy dawg, you did want to shut down discourse and freedom of speech. You also brought up the scriptures and abortion. Do you want to defend abortion as well? Is it a little indiscretion years ago that doesn't amount to much. Sorry, they are pulling down statues of confederate officers - not because they weren't the best officers, because their deeds were horrible. I wish this was a political issue, but it's not. The allegations against my favorite running back are quite serious. Many witnesses. Two women saying he requested abortions, one he pressed her to do it even though she didn't want to. His son agreed. A gun to his wife's head. I see you have no problem sweeping this under the rug, but it's a lot more serious than political theater. Women everywhere don't want to see this behavior immortalized with a statue. I don't know you, or if you were in the navy or anything else, but I don't agree with your point of view.

  • Run_Lindsey_RunRun_Lindsey_Run Posts: 185 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Herschel Walker did more to tarnish his reputation and legacy than any cluster of comments on this site could ever hope to do. Great football player no doubt. The balance of his character is very dubious at best.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2023

    1) YOU and another poster brought up Herschel’s political and personal past on a post about his Football achievements. 2) Yes I tried to defend him and I don’t apologize for it. 3) I didn’t Demand to shut down the post I respectfully Requested it be shut down so that people like You from the anonymity of your computer or smartphone couldn’t take Cheap and Malicious shots at Herschel and then label it “discourse”. 4) Herschel has already Explained, Apologized, and Tried to make amendments for the past with his EX wife many, many years ago. That’s not some sort of “New” revelation. 5) Two Women CLAIM, I could Claim to be a Billionaire and that wouldn’t make me one. Why did they take all these years to Make their claims and only show up when he decided to run for office ?? I’ll help you, Plenty of Dem $$ probably from George Soros. Just because they CLAIM something doesn’t mean it’s true. Just like you Attempting to challenge my time in the Navy based on “ You don’t know me” So do you Know these two women ?? 6) Same thing for “ All The Witnesses “ you cite. Fact based Witnesses or Operatives Working for the Dem Party to render a blow to Herschel’s then political candidacy. I’m pretty sure it’s the later. 7) Have YOU ever been involved in a nasty divorce where your Ex-Spouse is seeking to render you harm in Many ways ?? I have. And Herschel’s EX has much By Her Own Admission animosity against Herschel. 8) Have YOU ever suffered with mental health issues ? I have and Still do and I’m not ashamed as the PTSD I have comes from my military service that you Imply I’m lying about. 9) On the issue of abortion you speak as if ALL women are So Called Pro Choice ( the Baby in the **** sure doesn’t have much choice) and your Extremely wrong, as there are countless women that are Pro-Life. 10) Lastly YOU and a another poster or two were the ones that made the conscious Decision and Choice to take a Football article and turn it into a Political and Personal attack on Herschel Walker. Not me. I Did try to defend him and Won’t even think about apologizing for that. As far as my service in the Navy I could care less whether you believe me or not, I Know what I done, and sure don’t have to validate myself to somebody like YOU. You just go ahead and believe every single word that every single main stream media outlet Feeds you, if you want to Stay dumb downed it’s not my concern. Maybe someday you’ll be able to diffientirate between a Sports article and a editorial on political opinion. But in your case that day might be a long time coming.🙄 Oh and lastly it’s sad you won’t even consider believing “ Your favorite running back” but will Easily believe two women who rather conveniently materialized out of seemingly no where Oh just about the time Herschel began his campaign began. Funny how that happens. But to YOU Herschel’s just Gotta be lying or withholding Truth, because after all Main Stream Media said so. And all the so called witnesses !! And his Ex Wife that is so bitter against Herschel a raw green persimmon would taste sweet by comparison. You were very quick to throw the You Dont Know Me and Don’t know if I’m what I claim bit at me. But your so Incredibly naive you Do believe all the news media that have been Caught numerous times with an Anti-Conservative agenda. In Fact some of them have been found Guilty in law suits for their Obvious bias and mischaracterizations and out and out slander in some cases. So if You were ever a friend to Herschel with friends like You, who needs an enemy ? I’m so glad my friends have more faith and trust in me, than to just readily believe any and all Garbage a media outlet would say. And Herschel has Plenty of Friends and Family that Believe in him. If your not one of them I doubt it’s a huge loss, most of us don’t mind losing a Fickle friend.

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I guess we should rename all the MLK streets and Boulevards, schools, etc and take down his statues. He was by many accounts quite a horn dog.

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