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‘This is cut-throat,” Georgia player podcast sounds off on NIL, portal and recruiting

SystemSystem Posts: 10,533 admin
edited December 2023 in Article commenting
image‘This is cut-throat,” Georgia player podcast sounds off on NIL, portal and recruiting

ATHENS — Malaki Starks says he sees Georgia’s elimination from national championship hunt as an opportunity for the program to grow.

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    FalconUGAFanFalconUGAFan Posts: 142 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Good to hear this perspective from the players. Its easy to feel like the wheels are falling off this time of year. But when you hear this from players, you realize its just part of the natural progression of the team. Go Dawgs!

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    CWdawg1979CWdawg1979 Posts: 462 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thoughtful comments from obviously a well grounded young man.

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    SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Mr. Griffith, I will take a Bowers jersey, thank you. Nice of you to ask...

    Any truth to the story of Beck seeking 4 million to stay?

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    dawgfromduluthdawgfromduluth Posts: 364 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Not to worry. Puglisi is a stud. Just look at his senior film. A live arm and he can run! I think he's better than Raiola. And if Raiola thinks he's better off under Matt Ruhle (has he won anywhere he's been in recent memory?) than Kirby, we're better off without him.

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,737 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "This is a business". This is NFL Jr. Only now CFB players, for the 1st time, can do a money grab. Many of whom will never see the NFL. How much loyalty do you see from NFL players? Do you see loyalty to teams or loyalty to themselves and their next contract? This NIL free for all will continue until there are some rule changes.

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    KudzuKudzu Posts: 356 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2023

    And, breaking news... it just got worse:

    Released in the last hour, this really reinforces Starks' comments. In fact, in some ways this may be worse than the NFL, as you have 1000s of young men (and not just in college, but high school) with little understanding of the world facing what is likely a flood of both professionals (aka agents) and non-professionals inundating them with advice... much of which may not be for the player's own best interests.

    If they don't at least have a good family and/or coaching relationship backing them up as they try to sort this all out at 16-21 years old, you truly descend into chaos. We have entered a new phase of the new phase that is likely to end poorly, at least for the near-term, IMHO 😕😳🤯

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    DoggoneDoggone Posts: 101 ✭✭✭ Junior

    None of this is surprising. We've all known that everyhing is in flux. Consider Colorado this year. To go to a team who is "rebuilding" especially for a QB is a roll of the dice. Ask Shaddeur. Whoever settles at Nebraska better have a good medical insurance policy.

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    87Dawg_1187Dawg_11 Posts: 77 ✭✭✭ Junior

    This version of college football is the Wild Wild West with NIL and the Transfer Portal. It's a conundrum for the coaches, players and fans. The coaches hate it because they have to constantly re-recruit their players, but they can use it to quickly re-fill or improve a position group; players love it because they have the opportunity to go to a program where they're "wanted" and get financially rewarded, but they can be pushed down the depth chart by an experienced player from another school after working their way up. Fans hate it because of the constant roster churn, but they love getting players who can have an immediate impact. I hope the NCAA quickly steps in and provides guidelines and rules to standardize and improve the process before it's too late. I don't want college football to go the way of college basketball, with the one-and-done and having the regular season not matter. However, that will happen sooner rather than later if the system isn't improved.

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    khummelkhummel Posts: 833 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The shift from relational to transactional is a true shame. Used to be a coach or 3 would visit a kid's home, get to know that student and his family, share values, and hopefully convince them their school could be trusted to develop and take care of that young man (in every sense of those words) at a very formative stage of his life. That character stuff really mattered to the families, and to the coaches (who would become surrogate guardians for 3-4 years). Looks like that's all fading in the rearview mirror... the almighty $$ and instant gratification reign supreme. Sad. Very Sad. Go Dawgs!

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2023

    You're absolutely right. Every Con-Man and "Grifter", this side of the hemisphere...has been sharpening pens & their tongues, ever since the Summer of 2020. Lickin' their lips at the sight of all that cash in the hands of such innocence. Lol

    Our culpably slow and incompetent Government Officials...the same ones suing the CFP, NCAA and ESPN in FLA [etal]...are as corrupt as the CFP and NCAA. Why are we surprised?. We keep voting in the same POS' every darned election...and get the same results.

    Some of our Congressmen may have kids making money in the Sports Rep Biz. That can't be interfered with until they've topped off their bank accounts.

    Parasites in Politics and the CFB World are killing what's left of traditional CFB in favor of a boat load of cash, for everybody but, the players and fans. Fans pay their exorbitant ticket and concession prices...buy their CFB Team paraphernalia...watch their ESPN [etal] advertisers....etc..

    Hell...they've even started "in-game advertising" using "split-screen". Lol...suckin' as much blood out of the carcass as possible before the buzzards dive in....and, they are circling low, right now...IMO.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2023

    If they just created a trust...for every CFB Player...assigned to manage their money, while they are engaged in NCAA CFB...monitored by a 3rd party designated Gov't Agency...no more problem, IMO.

    The trust should be 100% transparent. Any monies or goods that a player comes by, that are not declared and placed under that Trust Umbrella....are seen as payola requiring expulsion from NCAA Eligibility.

    Any University personnel involved would be immediately placed on a 10 year blacklist & fired. In addition...that University would have to forfeit all games for the current year...and, declared ineligible for NCAA Competition of any kind, the following year.

    Nobody gets paid till they graduate or turn pro. IMO...That's what Colleges are for.

    If they want to create a new Amateur League...do it...at the expense of the people, making the money off of it...and, call it what it is. Right now, what we have is the equivalent of left-wingers calling Communism a "Socialist Democracy". Lol

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    osmosiphobeosmosiphobe Posts: 382 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I'm not sure how many paragraphs are actually written in that thing, but when I click the link, only the very last one is available. Everything else is blotted out by a Paramount Plus ad that won't go away...

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    osmosiphobeosmosiphobe Posts: 382 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    The catch there is that used the words "Gov't Agency." Do we really need MORE government involvement in ANYthing? Regulating may be one thing. But managing? Sure, there may be a good bit of scrutiny here, but still... Bureaucracy only tends to work out well for bureaucrats...

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    osmosiphobeosmosiphobe Posts: 382 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Every new turn of the NIL screw just makes me feel worse and worse for Johnny Manziel... and I really don't want to feel bad for Johnny...

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    osmosiphobeosmosiphobe Posts: 382 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I agree re: players to their teams. The other side of that, though, is that teams have no real loyalty to their plyayers at the pro level. The minute a dude doesn't cut the mustard, contracts are renegotiated and guys are traded off. They have very little choice, they just go where they're moved, all-in-all. One great thing about college ball, historically, has been that if a guy is benched, he isn't moved to another school, he's just benched. If being on the team means something to him, he gets cracking at practice and gets the plays right; gets his body right; gets his mind right. He shows the coach that he deserves that spot and wins it back. That's still a thing, for sure (and I really like to believe it's PARTICULARLY a thing at UGA, where we definitely see dudes battling for time in their positions), but transferring to a spot on another team for which you've already "proven" yourself or whatever-such-nonsense is way easier today, and just because of that is more likely. The quick money grab thought is relevant, but: Maybe I just like a resilience story, and so I'm dawging guys who don't meet a certain image of resilience. Maybe I have romanticized college athleticism, and am bi+¢hing about young men who don't fit the narrative. Maybe I spent too much time as a hard-working, hard-writing college student publishing work for my university without nearly the opportunities these dude have, and need to hound somebody about something.

    I don't know, y'all. I guess I just like the idea that being on a team matters, beyond more than just the sentiment that "we were on a team together once, and the world around being on a team is crazy, so I can understand why guys make the decision to move on."

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    BornADawgBornADawg Posts: 624 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    KudzuKudzu Posts: 356 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Apologies for that! To you and others who also tried. Tested it when I posted, but I get the same now a few hours later 😒🤪

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Not "No"...but, "Hell no"!. Lol

    What are the options? You could create a sub-body of the NCAA that answers to the courts.

    Somebody has to be accountable.

    Somebody has to be held accountable.

    Somebody has to hold them accountable....and, in a way that cannot be "challenged" in the courts.

    The Student Athlete's wellbeing must be the highest consideration. The integrity of CFB, should be the secondary priority. All other considerations must acquiesce to the top 2 priorities.

    They can put something together...but, there's not enough incentive to change...and, no one to drive the change, if they did want to. The heat isn't high enough, yet. Looks like their gonna roast alive, before anything is done. Then...it's too late. As Usual.

    It'll take a catastrophe to move the fossils in charge [tic]...the ones not profiting from it....in front of the problem.

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