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I’m sorry, but Fox has got to go.

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  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Why didn’t we call a timeout with 3.5 left in regulation after getting it across court?

  • MinnesotaDawgMinnesotaDawg Posts: 552 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Very difficult to be a UGA basketball fan. Pace of play is boring and players and coaches are maddeningly inconsistent. Double-digit leads vanish in no time. Players freak out under pressure or press, and can't score in the clutch. Long periods of games where they simply can't score at all--treat the ball like garbage and throw away possession after possession. Perhaps the most infuriating and frustrating of all is that this relatively experienced team has almost no basketball intelligence. Get a defensive rebound at the end of 1st overtime and chuck a 35-foot shot with several seconds to spare. There have been countless end of game possessions over the last couple years where Georgia doesn't look like they have a clue on offense. Strategy always seems to get a ref to bail them out with a call...or to just get lucky with a wild shot.

    Not to single out one player...because there is plenty of blame to go around among the coaches and players...but Derek Ogbeide is symbolic of the program. Starter for three years now...and offensive game has improved not one bit as far as I can tell. I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss more two and three-foot open shots.

  • CaliforniaDawgCaliforniaDawg Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    Georgia is LOADED with basketball talent.

    Not picking on bigcalidawg more than anyone else, but maybe the OP deserves the most blame. You guys all forget the reality of BB recruiting. With a few extreme exceptions such as Duke, BB recruiting is corrupt, I mean way beyond football corrupt.

    Fox doesn't play the corrupt game like too many coaches whose teams play against UGA. He is not as good a recruiter as he is a coach and please before you trash him as a coach, his reputation is that he can coach players up and he does, but at the end of the day, in the SEC and ACC and other leagues you need good coaching and elite talent. Fox doesn't play dirty so he doesn't always get the elite talent that is willing to play the dirty game.

    I am glad UGA has Fox. I wish y'all would be too.

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree about how corrupt college BB is. I hear stories from guys involved in northeastern programs about boxes of cash in hotel rooms. We do it the honest way, and it shows. Plus, our facilities are the WORST. Now, does that mean we should be blowing so many leads? No, but aside from Yante, we don’t have any major players. We never do. Stil, we have a 4* and 5* coming in next year. Let’s see what Fox can do then.

  • bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:
    How many years and how many excuses will Fox be allowed ?
    The man is mediocre at best in every way.
    He may well be the single worst offensive coach in college basketball. He's too boring to be much of a recruiter, what exactly is his strength ?

    Either try to win or drop the sport. We know we'll never compete for anything higher than a low NCAA Tourney bid with Fox, is that our goal ?

    But look at what he did with that powerhouse program... Nevada...

    Wait... never mind...

  • MyKeithbb09MyKeithbb09 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:
    How many years and how many excuses will Fox be allowed ?
    The man is mediocre at best in every way.
    He may well be the single worst offensive coach in college basketball. He's too boring to be much of a recruiter, what exactly is his strength ?

    Either try to win or drop the sport. We know we'll never compete for anything higher than a low NCAA Tourney bid with Fox, is that our goal ?

    Amen to that. You are telling the truth

  • chattanoogadawgchattanoogadawg Posts: 151 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @greshamdisco said:
    I agree about how corrupt college BB is. I hear stories from guys involved in northeastern programs about boxes of cash in hotel rooms. We do it the honest way, and it shows. Plus, our facilities are the WORST. Now, does that mean we should be blowing so many leads? No, but aside from Yante, we don’t have any major players. We never do. Stil, we have a 4* and 5* coming in next year. Let’s see what Fox can do then.

    They're not coming until 2019. If they come

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    I was one of those saying how great the Dawgs hoops were. I won’t apologize. I will go down with the ship.

    We do need a PG tho

    I'm afraid our head in the sand AD will look at Fox having a 5 star player committed and think somewhere in the future Fox might have a good season and decide the is good enough.

    If Fox returns next season we should give serious consideration to making changes in leadership for both men's basketball and the athletic department.
    Kirby is really the only hire favoring our current AD, and boosters insisted on that move.

  • chattanoogadawgchattanoogadawg Posts: 151 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:
    I'm afraid our head in the sand AD will look at Fox having a 5 star player committed and think somewhere in the future Fox might have a good season and decide the is good enough.

    If Fox returns next season we should give serious consideration to making changes in leadership for both men's basketball and the athletic department.
    Kirby is really the only hire favoring our current AD, and boosters insisted on that move.

    Agreed, McGarity was just a puppet for the football boosters. All of his actual decisions have been dreadful.

  • CoachRob16CoachRob16 Posts: 428 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Same ole UGA basketball year after year. 73-73 under Fox in SEC play and only 2 NCAA Tournament invites. Time for a change. Too much talent in GA every year for UGA to not get serious about it and find someone who can get the job done.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    Well, have you guys noticed that we have no point guard play whatsoever.

    This team cannot get the ball downcourt and we have no “quarterback”

    Could you imagine this squad with Vern Fleming?

    It would still be scratching for a tourney bid.
    That is who we are.
    Only a new HC and mindset has a chance of altering that reality.> @Bankwalker said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @UnderDog68 said:
    Has UGA gave a rat's a$$ about basketball since Hugh Durham was here? Asking for a friend....

    Tubby and Harrick had everyone's attention. We should have pulled a Louisville and brought Tubby back after he parted with Kentucky.

    Count Dennis (Dracula) Felton was too concerned with his fashionable suits and having a plush office.

    We can't use the program's past as a gauge, we have to be more daring and think about moving up the food chain.
    We have the money and the recruiting base, the rest is a matter of leadership.

    Are you old enough to remember Tubby at UGA and Harrick? Just curious. "We cant use the program's past as a gauge" implies that you aren't. Kentucky knew they were in for a brawl and we were in the Sweet 16 as a real threat.

    I remember every season since 1980.
    We have NEVER sustained success in men's basketball.
    We shouldn't aim for the brief successes we've had based on a recruiting class or 2.
    We need a mindset of building and sustaining a highly competitive program with designs on titles, not bids.

    Im sorry to say this, but Georgia is a coaching stepping stone school in men’s basketball. You know that’s true and for the exact same reason you mention regarding mindset. If Fox had come in and crushed it for UGA, then a basketball school would have hired him away. Our arena blows. Is the livestock barn still on the backside of it? Is there an uglier arena in the SEC? Seriously. The new seats and audio visual stuff looks awesome, but we dont call it the Stegasaurus without good reason. Over the last 40 years the UGA AA’s idea of investing in the basketball facilities has been to put in a new scoreboard and new bathroom fixtures. Its a joke. Did they get anything new with the indoor facility? I really dont know and have only seen stuff for the track team and baseball team. Hopefully we are at least applying Kirby’s administrative support blueprint to the basketball program. It was never a recruiting class or two, in the instance of Tubby Smith it was the coach who was able to overcome the LACK of institutional support. Same with Harrick, who wasnt going to be a target of another school due to his age.

    We’ve seen twice since Hugh Durham what a quality coach can build at UGA with the instate talent, but our facilities remained at the level they were at under Hugh Durham while everyone else was investing in theirs. That only makes the job all the more difficult. I was never a fan of Felton, but the guy was completely handicapped by his available on-campus resources. A young Tubby Smith couldnt have come in when Fox was hired and accomplish what Tubby did in the 90’s. Lets just say Im skeptical a new coach would make a difference, but sure, roll the dice on one. Just know we will probably lose the kids Fox has committed, which I believe includes the #1pg recruit. Nonetheless, I feel your pain on the Auburn loss.

    We don't have to accept past ideas and limitations of our program, we just seem caught in it's negativity.
    The ONLY question is whether fans would support a program if we got the right staff and gave them elite support.
    Would fans turn out if we became an exciting basketball team with REAL possibilities to actually COMPETE for titles ?
    We know Fox's limitations, either we're in it to win or we're not.

    The answer is yes. The fans turned out when both Tubby and Harrick were leading the ship. Im very similar to the person above who said they had stoped following the team. > @chattanoogadawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    I'm afraid our head in the sand AD will look at Fox having a 5 star player committed and think somewhere in the future Fox might have a good season and decide the is good enough.

    If Fox returns next season we should give serious consideration to making changes in leadership for both men's basketball and the athletic department.
    Kirby is really the only hire favoring our current AD, and boosters insisted on that move.

    Agreed, McGarity was just a puppet for the football boosters. All of his actual decisions have been dreadful.

    Amen. Our country club sports have disintegrated.

  • chattanoogadawgchattanoogadawg Posts: 151 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @Bankwalker said:

    Amen. Our country club sports have disintegrated.

    Not to mention baseball. I mean how in the hell can a state w/ the best baseball league in the country (ECB) not find a way to compete in the SEC? It's beyond me.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @chattanoogadawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    Amen. Our country club sports have disintegrated.

    Not to mention baseball. I mean how in the hell can a state w/ the best baseball league in the country (ECB) not find a way to compete in the SEC? It's beyond me.

    Yep. We should be able to start a men's soccer team and win a NC in both baseball and soccer by just recruiting Cobb, Fulton, and Gwinnett Co. (Slight exaggeration)

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Being a Dawg fan I try to catch the basketball and baseball games when possible, but they are so hard watch cause you know how it turns out.
    I think a coaching change has to happen or it will be more of the same.

  • boiledpeanutboiledpeanut Posts: 22 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Another Georgia Men's Basketball game. Another blown lead. Like clockwork.

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