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Greg McGarity- How long should we accept mediocrity?

andrews1253andrews1253 Posts: 427 ✭✭✭ Junior

https://www.dawgnation.com/football/dawgnation/uga-athletic-director-greg-mcgarity-responsibility-united
In an article posted nine months ago Seth Emerson posted comments from Greg McGarity.

UGA ranks 24th in the NCAA Director’s Cup all-sports standings, updated on Thursday, and fifth in the SEC. The school is in danger of finishing out of the top 20 nationally for the first time in nearly two decades, and has seen a drop in the number of teams winning championships.

“I feel confident that you will see marketed improvement in numerous sports in the near, if not immediate, future,” McGarity said. “Administratively we continue to be committed to providing the resources necessary to make that happen, and the fiscal year 2018 budget will reflect those commitments.” Greg McGarity

I realize football rules in Georgia, however, I would follow other sports if I felt like we were consistently feilding competitive teams that other schools actually feared. I love excellence! McGarity does not come close to success in that regard. What do you think we should expect from the AD?

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  • DawgsofWarDawgsofWar Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

  • andrews1253andrews1253 Posts: 427 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @DawgsofWar said:
    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

    In no way am I suggesting McGarity be fired. I do believe a school with the prestige, financial backing and fan base should be in the top ten in NCAA Director’s Cup all-sports standings every year! Maybe I'm wishing too much.

  • andrews1253andrews1253 Posts: 427 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @BojanglesInsider said:
    We shouldn't. We should protest. Join me in making BB threads unbearable until McGarity does something. I'm thinking my next derailment strategy will be posting cheesecake curry recipes in Hindi

    you must be a real DAWG. sic em!

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'd like to be higher... but then I ask myself this:

    Would I rather be where UGA was in the 1998-1999 season when we finished #2 in the Directors cup (to Stanford who wins it every year)? Or would I prefer being where we are now... but with a football team playing for the national title?

    The answer is the latter. I'd prefer both... but if I had to sacrifice one I'll give away the Director's Cup standings for football success.

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:
    I'd like to be higher... but then I ask myself this:

    Would I rather be where UGA was in the 1998-1999 season when we finished #2 in the Directors cup (to Stanford who wins it every year)? Or would I prefer being where we are now... but with a football team playing for the national title?

    The answer is the latter. I'd prefer both... but if I had to sacrifice one I'll give away the Director's Cup standings for football success.

    The problem for me is that the two should go hand in hand. Now McGarity will piggyback off the Kirby hire and stay on as AD. Something needs to be done though because our basketball and baseball programs are a joke

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawgsofWar said:
    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

    DawgsofWar Bro, really? Football, baseball, gymnastics and swimming..... um what about Equestrian? Even though Gregory didn't mention equestrian, if that doesnt mean "marketed improvement in numerous sports in the near, if not immediate, future" then I throw my hands up.

  • DawgsofWarDawgsofWar Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @JRT812 said:

    @DawgsofWar said:
    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

    DawgsofWar Bro, really? Football, baseball, gymnastics and swimming..... um what about Equestrian? Even though Gregory didn't mention equestrian, if that doesnt mean "marketed improvement in numerous sports in the near, if not immediate, future" then I throw my hands up.

    Sorry I don't keep up with every sport that Georgia has to offer.

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2018

    @DawgsofWar said:

    @JRT812 said:

    @DawgsofWar said:
    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

    DawgsofWar Bro, really? Football, baseball, gymnastics and swimming..... um what about Equestrian? Even though Gregory didn't mention equestrian, if that doesnt mean "marketed improvement in numerous sports in the near, if not immediate, future" then I throw my hands up.

    Sorry I don't keep up with every sport that Georgia has to offer.

    Just messing around. All I care about is football when it comes to UGA. Happy we made improvements

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @JRT812 said:

    @DawgsofWar said:

    @JRT812 said:

    @DawgsofWar said:
    Good post. This is kind of hard to comment because a majority of schools just try and concentrate on one specific sport IMO. For example, Georgia is a football school. I believe they're good in baseball and gymnastics and swimming, but football is the primary sport. Kentucky is primarily a basketball school. Duke is primarily a basketball school. UNC is kind of both basketball and baseball. If AD's were fired based upon the success of the entire sports program at a college, I would think many of them would have been long gone by now. I guess it just depends on what the school and the fans want. Just my two cents.

    DawgsofWar Bro, really? Football, baseball, gymnastics and swimming..... um what about Equestrian? Even though Gregory didn't mention equestrian, if that doesnt mean "marketed improvement in numerous sports in the near, if not immediate, future" then I throw my hands up.

    Sorry I don't keep up with every sport that Georgia has to offer.

    Just messing around.

    That's my job. Stop taking my job.

    Noted jangles.

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Not that I am going to these games, but women’s BB is making it this year. Gymnastics will be turning it around, and tennis & swimming rocks. I think golf is good. We just need improvements in men’s BB, baseball, and men’s badminton.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @greshamdisco said:
    Not that I am going to these games, but women’s BB is making it this year. Gymnastics will be turning it around, and tennis & swimming rocks. I think golf is good. We just need improvements in men’s BB, baseball, and men’s badminton.

    Women's basketball is having an excellent year so far.
    The rest of those sports are not near their high points though, other than maybe swimming.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2018

    A friend of mine went to NC State. He called me one Saturday years ago after they lost to OSU in heartbreaking fashion up in Columbus. I think they had Rivers and TJ MCClendon. With zero empathy, I responded, "Well....we can't all go to football schools."

    GEORGIA IS A FOOTBALL SCHOOL that also happens to be really good at other sports. Sometimes the best at other sports. Swimming. Diving ,Golf, Tennis, Baseball. Women's Gymnastics, WBB. I don't care if they shut down the rest of the athletic program. It is past time we start winning like a **** football school - all the **** time.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @Bankwalker said:
    A friend of mine went to NC State. He called me one Saturday years ago after they lost to OSU in heartbreaking fashion up in Columbus. I think they had Rivers and TJ MCClendon. With zero empathy, I responded, "Well....we can't all go to football schools."

    GEORGIA IS A FOOTBALL SCHOOL that also happens to be really good at other sports. Sometimes the best at other sports. Swimming. Diving ,Golf, Tennis, Baseball. Women's Gymnastics, WBB. I don't care if they shut the rest of the athletic program. It is past time we start winning like a **** football school - all the **** time.

    if I was AD this is exactly what we would do. Shut the others down and focus only on football

    If you were AD, we’d be on probation. NCAA requires DI programs to sponsor a minimum # of sports. Don’t think we can drop any.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @judasdurant said:

    @DawginSC said:
    I'd like to be higher... but then I ask myself this:

    Would I rather be where UGA was in the 1998-1999 season when we finished #2 in the Directors cup (to Stanford who wins it every year)? Or would I prefer being where we are now... but with a football team playing for the national title?

    The answer is the latter. I'd prefer both... but if I had to sacrifice one I'll give away the Director's Cup standings for football success.

    The problem for me is that the two should go hand in hand. Now McGarity will piggyback off the Kirby hire and stay on as AD. Something needs to be done though because our basketball and baseball programs are a joke

    They really don't go hand in hand.

    Stanford wins it every year because they fund EVERY sport that qualifies for the rankings. They get to take their top 20. Back in 1998 (when I was a student)... we only had 20 scholarship sports. I think we're up to 22 or 23 now... but Stanford has 34. They get to toss out their 14 worst results each year.

    The Sears Cup is about how many sports you put money into... not your overall success in the sports you do field. That's a secondary factor.

    When Charles Knapp was the President of UGA... he didn't really prioritize football financially. He told his AD (Vince Dooley) to focus on bringing all sports up and not to direct every available dollar towards football. That was successful... we got championships in Golf, Tennis and Swimming largely because of that. But fans weren't exactly happy.

    Michael Adams read that... and told Dooley (and the future AD's) to focus on football. Dollars started to come out of other sports to increase spending on football.

    Football has gotten better. The other sports have slipped.

    Ideally we'd spend huge amounts on all sports... but we don't do that.

  • andrews1253andrews1253 Posts: 427 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Some really good comments have been posted and some good information. Tks. I understand each institution places priority on different sports. I will always primarily be a football fan!

    My primary concern is that Georgia only occasionally competes at a high level in other sports and considering the resources, talent pool, fan base (which would increase if teams were winning) and financial resources Georgia should be able to compete for championships in numerous sports. This appears to me to be coaching issues. Georgia's got the best kids!

    One interesting review I read places Georgia 28th out of 30 in ranking a limited number of programs from other institutions. What really gets my goat... Florida is ranked #1. Conclude what you will from it.

    https://www.bestcollegereviews.org/features/most-successful-college-athletics-programs/

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