John Emery Jr. ..... Maybe, just maybe, as good as it gets?

SWGADAWG

I’m guilty of it too, but people always go for the past dawg comparisons. If I do I say he looks like Knowshon.. if I don’t I say he looks like TJ Yeldon. Like Sony and the guys above emery looks to have to elite cut while in space and not losing much speed.

MacDawg15

To me I thought that at 1st sight, but seems to have a lil more wiggle imo.

MacDawg15

@WildDawg said:

@MacDawg15 said:
ABSOLUTELY agree. IT'D be almost crazy RIGHT NOW to say he'll be better than Michel. But this kid's THE REAL DEAL!!! When he puts his foot in the ground and cuts, he doesn't lose ANY speed, and he looks to have great patience, vision, and power. Can you imagine us throwin Zeus, Cook and this kid at teams the next few years?? The best hs tape I've seen was from Zeus, but this kid is only a whisker behind if at all. HUGE GET. If any fanbase Still wants to say we're not RBU you've lost your **** mind..

1000% agree...and call me crazy but I like his film as much as Zeus'. He's got all the tools...now he'll have to learn to block like an SEC back and be a receiving threat as well, but the pure talent is evident. Excited to see our 4 deep in a couple years- Swift, Zeus, Cook, Emory. No wonder the lizards are crying and hugging their hot rocks just a little tighter. Poor bast-urds...would you want your D to be staring at that every down. He-ll NO!!!

DEAD ON bud!

pgjackson

@levander said:
Emery probably is my least favorite of the 3 5* RB’s they got on the roster now. But one thing that really struck me is several times on his highlights, it was almost like he’d freeze defenders just by staring them down. And then he’d be running off, and the defender would be having trouble moving his feet, then Emery’d Be gone. One example of that is at 1:12 in the first video in the OP. Right at about 1:12 he breaks a tackle on the line. Then the next guy with a shot at him is maybe a linebackers, but Emery does that “freeze you with my eyeballs!” thing and runs by him.

The guy changes speed and direction like a gazelle. He is very light on his feet. Seems to be thinking two steps ahead of everyone else.

PeachCoDawg

named > @GordonBombay said:

Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

He's a mid teen in those videos. He's got another year in HS and you're comparing his abilities to polished, brutal SEC backs? Give the kid some time. They all needed it. If White hadn't tore his knee up, I'd say he's the closest to a real SEC back coming right in, but they all have to develop A LOT! We'll make him a stud

GordonBombay

@PeachCoDawg said:
named > @GordonBombay said:

Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

He's a mid teen in those videos. He's got another year in HS and you're comparing his abilities to polished, brutal SEC backs? Give the kid some time. They all needed it. If White hadn't tore his knee up, I'd say he's the closest to a real SEC back coming right in, but they all have to develop A LOT! We'll make him a stud

I guess I need to give him another year. I’ve been comparing this video to Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, and Michel’s senior year of high school tape, so a 1 year difference. He’s gonna be a good one be regardless.

PeachCoDawg

@GordonBombay said:

@PeachCoDawg said:
named > @GordonBombay said:

Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

He's a mid teen in those videos. He's got another year in HS and you're comparing his abilities to polished, brutal SEC backs? Give the kid some time. They all needed it. If White hadn't tore his knee up, I'd say he's the closest to a real SEC back coming right in, but they all have to develop A LOT! We'll make him a stud

I guess I need to give him another year. I’ve been comparing this video to Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, and Michel’s senior year of high school tape, so a 1 year difference. He’s gonna be a good one be regardless.

Yeah just give him some time bro. Those coaches know who they want. He'll be another beast in the backfield

FirePlugDawg

@pgjackson said:

@GordonBombay said:
Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

Not sure what videos you are watching, but he breaks a lot of tackles in this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FQes1BmkH2Q

Thank you for this ^^ The best make it seem very easy. Mercy! Go Dawgs!

pgjackson

@FirePlugDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@GordonBombay said:
Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

Not sure what videos you are watching, but he breaks a lot of tackles in this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FQes1BmkH2Q

Thank you for this ^^ The best make it seem very easy. Mercy! Go Dawgs!

Like someone said earlier, I think he's more like a Moreno with more top end speed than anyone else.

SWARLES_BARKLEY

@pgjackson said:

@FirePlugDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@GordonBombay said:
Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

Not sure what videos you are watching, but he breaks a lot of tackles in this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FQes1BmkH2Q

Thank you for this ^^ The best make it seem very easy. Mercy! Go Dawgs!

Like someone said earlier, I think he's more like a Moreno with more top end speed than anyone else.

Couldn’t place who he reminded me of, and this is it. This is spot on.

Regarding the concern that his film doesn’t show many broken tackles, being able to turn a form tackle into an arm tackle because of elusiveness is not a bad thing. You’ll notice nobody squares him up. The tackles he doesn’t break aren’t due to a lack of power, but rather him being chased down from behind and corralled by the opposing defense, some 25 yards down field. He routinely gets downfield without anyone getting a hand on him because of vision, speed, and elusiveness. If you recall Richard Samuel’s running style, the dude had all the strength and speed you can ask for, but had no wiggle. Just rant straight through guys. It netted more broken tackles that Emery Jr’ running style. But how productive was that?

WCDawg

I like the kid a lot, but I'll be surprised if he's an all time great.
He does everything well, but nothing great, at least from what I see on film.

That said, Bama had a back win a Heisman without having any particularly exceptional feature. When a RB can execute everything well and runs behind an exceptional OL, he can get things done.

WCDawg

PS. I have a particular fondness for knowing a kid has made a good choice by coming to UGA, even beyond winning in a way. These backs we're signing will have every chance to succeed, and without having to wear themselves out.

MacDawg15

IDC what anybody says this kid is a special talent. Not Gurley but **** sure isn't Carlton Thomas!

WCDawg

@MacDawg15 said:
IDC what anybody says this kid is a special talent. Not Gurley but **** sure isn't Carlton Thomas!

I don't think anybody has or will suggest he's Carlton Thomas ( who I thought would be exceptional, I still can't reconcile his great HS film with what he did at UGA)
The question is more whether he's in Chubb, Gurley and Knowshon's class or a shade below them.

sauceddawg

@SWARLES_BARKLEY said:

@pgjackson said:

@FirePlugDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@GordonBombay said:
Speed is the real deal and cutting is the real deal. For these vids, please ignore all long touchdown runs that come without contact. Please pay close attention to what happens with contact. He’s elusive as heck, but when guys get their arms on him, he’s down. He’s no Gurley. He’s no Chubb. Michel is a pretty apt comparison, as is Keith Marshall. I say all these things to temper expectations but please be dang excited he’s a dawg!

Not sure what videos you are watching, but he breaks a lot of tackles in this one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FQes1BmkH2Q

Thank you for this ^^ The best make it seem very easy. Mercy! Go Dawgs!

Like someone said earlier, I think he's more like a Moreno with more top end speed than anyone else.

Couldn’t place who he reminded me of, and this is it. This is spot on.

But how productive was that?

Pretty productive against the gators!