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Should a non conference champion make the playoffs?

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  • AgDawgAgDawg Posts: 763 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @AndersonDawg said:
    The 4 best teams should be in the playoffs, but politics and $$$ always get in the way. Always have always will.

    What team has been left out that should have gotten in? TCU/Baylor in 2014? Penn State in 2016?

  • tfk_fanboytfk_fanboy Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RockSpringDawg said:

    @tfk_fanboy said:
    And I would be willing to wager a #1 at CFA that we won't see UGA and Alabama make the playoffs this year

    I see your wager and raise it to a value sized #1. If UGA & Bama are both undefeated going into the SECCG, I believe it’s more likely than not that both get into the playoffs.

    Like @pippin888 said, it should be the best 4 teams, period.

    it is a bet, friend

    one of us just needs to remember come the end of the season ha

  • Acrum21Acrum21 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think it's best for ALL of college football if non-conference winners do not make the playoffs. If you can make the playoffs without winning your division or conference then w.t.h is the point in even having conferences?

  • rwdennisrwdennis Posts: 29 ✭✭ Sophomore

    I think the big thing that everyone overlooks in the case of last year is that the 2 teams from the same conference that got into the playoffs didn't play each other during the season or in the conf championship. If UGA and Bama meet in the SECCG, then the committee might view that as a play-in game. If one team defeats the other one in a head-to-head game, what purpose does it serve to put the loser in the playoffs? Of course, if 2 of the other conference champs are obviously inferior, then all bets are off.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Acrum21 said:
    I think it's best for ALL of college football if non-conference winners do not make the playoffs. If you can make the playoffs without winning your division or conference then w.t.h is the point in even having conferences?

    THAT is an interesting idea. The problem with that is that not all conferences are created equal and, there are 5 of them.

  • Acrum21Acrum21 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Acrum21 said:
    I think it's best for ALL of college football if non-conference winners do not make the playoffs. If you can make the playoffs without winning your division or conference then w.t.h is the point in even having conferences?

    THAT is an interesting idea. The problem with that is that not all conferences are created equal and, there are 5 of them.

    I agree 100% that's why I had to put the disclaimer "all" of college football. Obviously the SEC has been the biggest benefactor of this and OSU but for college football as a whole this centralizes all the money/power. Hope I don't sound too communist lol

  • corai3corai3 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @tfk_fanboy said:
    And I would be willing to wager a #1 at CFA that we won't see UGA and Alabama make the playoffs this year

    I could go for a CFA number 1 right about now

  • BullyDawgBullyDawg Posts: 524 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Generally, I think not.
    Now, if UGA is not SEC champs, I might be convinced otherwise... ;)

  • JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @AgDawg said:

    @AndersonDawg said:
    The 4 best teams should be in the playoffs, but politics and $$$ always get in the way. Always have always will.

    What team has been left out that should have gotten in? TCU/Baylor in 2014? Penn State in 2016?

    That is a highly debatable point. And that is my point on the current system. There is too much subjectivity and bias affecting outcomes. Its OK if you are Ohio State or one of the schools who is in the conversation even when they aren't that good. Not so good if your conference champ doesn't have the chance to prove how good they are on the field.

  • JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Acrum21 said:
    I think it's best for ALL of college football if non-conference winners do not make the playoffs. If you can make the playoffs without winning your division or conference then w.t.h is the point in even having conferences?

    THAT is an interesting idea. The problem with that is that not all conferences are created equal and, there are 5 of them.

    No, they are not all created equal. But that doesn't mean the unexpected team won't challenge. It happens all the time in the NCAA Basketball tournament. I know football is a different animal, but then that's why you play the games. And as we've seen in other leagues--teams with the chance to compete will often get new support for their program. In other words--conferences will have more motivation to get better. When PERCEPTION and SUBJECTIVITY keeps you out of contention--why bother making it a bigger priority?

  • ugaforeverugaforever Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Just put the best 4 teams in. I thought that's what it's all about. It's week 2. A lot of football to be played. Let's just see where all the teams sit in week 6 or 7. The early polls are a joke. I'm a SEC/UGA homer, but a college football fan first. I just don't think you can count anybody out yet. The ball bounces funny in some games.

  • tfk_fanboytfk_fanboy Posts: 2,821 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @rwdennis said:
    I think the big thing that everyone overlooks in the case of last year is that the 2 teams from the same conference that got into the playoffs didn't play each other during the season or in the conf championship. If UGA and Bama meet in the SECCG, then the committee might view that as a play-in game. If one team defeats the other one in a head-to-head game, what purpose does it serve to put the loser in the playoffs? Of course, if 2 of the other conference champs are obviously inferior, then all bets are off.

    good point

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I would go one step further. Expand to 16 teams? If you really care about inclusion then give the five power 5 conference champs and the five group of 5 conferences automatic bids. Then 6 at large teams. Have the committee select the at large teams and seed the 16 teams. You get the Cinderella-aspect of March madness to a degree. You are also guaranteed national level buy-in. You would be bathing in revenue. For all those saying that is too many games or teams it has magically worked out for every other level of football for years.

  • Acrum21Acrum21 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PTDawg said:
    I would go one step further. Expand to 16 teams? If you really care about inclusion then give the five power 5 conference champs and the five group of 5 conferences automatic bids. Then 6 at large teams. Have the committee select the at large teams and seed the 16 teams. You get the Cinderella-aspect of March madness to a degree. You are also guaranteed national level buy-in. You would be bathing in revenue. For all those saying that is too many games or teams it has magically worked out for every other level of football for years.

    I would say 16 team tourney at the end but they would have to cut a game or two in the regular season which I would be fine with. Otherwise teams that make it to the ship would play 17 total.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sounds good to me. One less cupcake game for all of the power 5 teams. The one drawback is that it could discourage big season opener OOC games. I think that's a small trade-off for what you'd get, though. Imagine, for example, being able to see Boise not only take down Oklahoma with the statue of liberty but actually make a run towards a title. THAT kind of thing would be good for college football as a whole.

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