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Tua over rated?

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  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:
    This is tua much for me.

    Give him the heizmann already FFS

    He’s the best QB in college football in a very long time. It sucks that he also happens to play on the best college team in a long time.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 2018

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @BojanglesInsider said:
    This is tua much for me.

    Give him the heizmann already FFS

    He’s the best QB in college football in a very long time. It sucks that he also happens to play on the best college team in a long time.

    I agree tbh. And it hurts.

    Why couldn’t he have gone to Arizona or Colorado? He was a 4-star out of HS and those were in his top 4. The whole college scene would be completely different if he hadn’t picked Bama.

  • RedBlackDawgRedBlackDawg Posts: 354 ✭✭✭ Junior

    He’s got a stronger arm than Elway. More accurate than Montana. Runs as fast as Vick, but only 30 lb heavier. Shoo in #1 pick for the 2020 draft. Yeah, other than that, he’s way over rated...

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RedBlackDawg said:
    He’s got a stronger arm than Elway. More accurate than Montana. Runs as fast as Vick, but only 30 lb heavier. Shoo in #1 pick for the 2020 draft. Yeah, other than that, he’s way over rated...

    I don’t think his arm is anywhere near Elway’s and I doubt he’s close to Vick’s speed.

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RedBlackDawg said:
    He’s got a stronger arm than Elway. More accurate than Montana. Runs as fast as Vick, but only 30 lb heavier. Shoo in #1 pick for the 2020 draft. Yeah, other than that, he’s way over rated...

    Negative Elway (not even close) and never mention Tua and Vick jn the same sentence again (with regards to speed).

    That said, Tua is a robot and his stats at the end of this year will be mind boggling.

  • RedBlackDawgRedBlackDawg Posts: 354 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @Polynikes said:

    @RedBlackDawg said:
    He’s got a stronger arm than Elway. More accurate than Montana. Runs as fast as Vick, but only 30 lb heavier. Shoo in #1 pick for the 2020 draft. Yeah, other than that, he’s way over rated...

    Negative Elway (not even close) and never mention Tua and Vick jn the same sentence again (with regards to speed).

    That said, Tua is a robot and his stats at the end of this year will be mind boggling.

    🤣🤣
    OK, perhaps the speed comparison to Vick is hyperbole, but I stand by my statement about his arm strength. Danielson during the Bama game today did a replay of the game winning touchdown in last year’s NC game. Tua’s pass went 50 yards in the air but only reached a maximal height of 25 feet....in other words, it was shot out like a cannon

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RedBlackDawg said:

    @Polynikes said:

    @RedBlackDawg said:
    He’s got a stronger arm than Elway. More accurate than Montana. Runs as fast as Vick, but only 30 lb heavier. Shoo in #1 pick for the 2020 draft. Yeah, other than that, he’s way over rated...

    Negative Elway (not even close) and never mention Tua and Vick jn the same sentence again (with regards to speed).

    That said, Tua is a robot and his stats at the end of this year will be mind boggling.

    🤣🤣
    OK, perhaps the speed comparison to Vick is hyperbole, but I stand by my statement about his arm strength. Danielson during the Bama game today did a replay of the game winning touchdown in last year’s NC game. Tua’s pass went 50 yards in the air but only reached a maximal height of 25 feet....in other words, it was shot out like a cannon

    Elway could stand on home plate and throw a baseball into the stands.

  • PolynikesPolynikes Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Also Elway threw ducks 80 yards.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Polynikes said:
    Also Elway threw ducks 80 yards.

    For you Eason skeptics, Elway used to throw the ball too hard early in his NFL career. Receivers who tried to trap the ball against their chests got the Elway “cross”. A mark from the point of the ball hitting their chests. There have been few arms in the league to ever match his.

  • mleemlee Posts: 721 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    He is on a team with the perfect set up. OL is one of the best, RBs that can run for days, and super talented receivers..

  • striker42striker42 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Tua is legit. However he's still overrated. He's getting too much credit for that offense (QB's often get too much credit for success and too much blame for failure). If Fromm was taking snaps at Bama and Tua was under center in Athens, we'd probably all be raving about how great Fromm looks.

  • 706Dawg706Dawg Posts: 467 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @striker42 said:
    Tua is legit. However he's still overrated. He's getting too much credit for that offense (QB's often get too much credit for success and too much blame for failure). If Fromm was taking snaps at Bama and Tua was under center in Athens, we'd probably all be raving about how great Fromm looks.

    So you’re saying it’s the coaching/play calling?

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @striker42 said:
    Tua is legit. However he's still overrated. He's getting too much credit for that offense (QB's often get too much credit for success and too much blame for failure). If Fromm was taking snaps at Bama and Tua was under center in Athens, we'd probably all be raving about how great Fromm looks.

    I agree it is easy to look good as a Bama QB, but I have never seen a QB drop so many bombs right on the money before. His deep ball is unparalleled. He is doing things that have never been done before at the position. Now, if he picked Arizona or Colorado (which were in his top 4 out of HS), he might not be having this kind of season...but he'd still be one of the top passers in the country. The LSU game might tell us a lot about him.

  • striker42striker42 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @706Dawg said:

    @striker42 said:
    Tua is legit. However he's still overrated. He's getting too much credit for that offense (QB's often get too much credit for success and too much blame for failure). If Fromm was taking snaps at Bama and Tua was under center in Athens, we'd probably all be raving about how great Fromm looks.

    So you’re saying it’s the coaching/play calling?

    More that it has a lot to do with being surrounded by ridiculous talent. Tua is one of the top QBs in the country, no doubt, but a lot of the hype overlooks the contributions of the guys around Tua. The line giving him tons of time to throw, the receivers catching everything close, the run game taking pressure off him, etc. It's taking an exceptional QB and making him legendary.

  • 706Dawg706Dawg Posts: 467 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @striker42 said:

    @706Dawg said:

    @striker42 said:
    Tua is legit. However he's still overrated. He's getting too much credit for that offense (QB's often get too much credit for success and too much blame for failure). If Fromm was taking snaps at Bama and Tua was under center in Athens, we'd probably all be raving about how great Fromm looks.

    So you’re saying it’s the coaching/play calling?

    More that it has a lot to do with being surrounded by ridiculous talent. Tua is one of the top QBs in the country, no doubt, but a lot of the hype overlooks the contributions of the guys around Tua. The line giving him tons of time to throw, the receivers catching everything close, the run game taking pressure off him, etc. It's taking an exceptional QB and making him legendary.

    Interesting take. PFF rates our OL as better as pass pro. We have equal talent at WR on paper based on recruiting rankings. We avg. 5.8 yards per carry, Bama 5.2.

    I think these stats indicate Tua is as advertised. To your earlier post of “if Jake was there and Tua here” I do think we’d still be undefeated. Unfortunately, Tua is the best QB we’ve seen since Watson, and Tua is doing something unprecedented in the toughest conference. We also need better QB play because numbers indicate we have everything we need to achieve our goals this year.

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