What if I've been wrong about Meyer ?...

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
edited November 2 in General

Some times it's hard to open up to other possibilities when I've held certain opinions as fact.
After reading about Aaron Hernandez's advanced CTE and his hidden gay life style which may have led to a perceived threat of being exposed by the man he murdered my little internal voice has slowly been working on my conscious. The news that Meyer might also suffer from brain abnormalities set the little voice into even more action. What if Meyer knew about Hernandez's sexuality and mental struggles and he genuinely wanted to help him ? What if he wrong headedly, perhaps because of his own hidden struggles, sympathized with an assistant who had impulse control issues ?

In the interest of communicating, I suspect if my brain is ever put under a microscope, CTE or something like it will be found. I don't know the answers, but I'm now open to the questions.

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  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Hard to know or understand what goes on in someones personal life. From an outside perspective Meyer does not seem like the person who "genuinely wants to help people." ... but that comment comes from my own glass house. Those who know him may say he is a great person and blah blah blah. At the end of the day we all have to live with our own personal decisions while some peoples personal decisions are on more of a public display.

    I follow your thought process, but have no idea if it is true or not

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited November 2

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Hard to know or understand what goes on in someones personal life. From an outside perspective Meyer does not seem like the person who "genuinely wants to help people." ... but that comment comes from my own glass house. Those who know him may say he is a great person and blah blah blah. At the end of the day we all have to live with our own personal decisions while some peoples personal decisions are on more of a public display.

    I follow your thought process, but have no idea if it is true or not

    He has been very wrong headed, that's for sure. But has it come from empathy, self interest or a combination of places ?

    Does the catholic lad suffer from illness related to brain abnormalities himself ? if so, does that perspective help explain a sympathetic empathy for these people ? All I know is the little voice has opened a door that I'll have to peek through, the little bastard can be a pain.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited November 2

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:
    This thread done gave me the CTE...

    Are you sure it's not just the beans and meth ? They are an explosive combination in some people.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:
    This thread done gave me the CTE...

    Are you sure it's not just the beans and meth ? They are an explosive combination in some people.

    FRANKS AND BEANS!!!!!

  • Midnite_TrainMidnite_Train Posts: 406 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited November 2

    Watch the you tube video on the culture Meyer created at Florida before left, there’s some pretty sick stuff.

    For example he berated one kid endlessly in the weight room until the kids thigh muscles blew out or something. Meyer is not a good guy

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:
    This thread done gave me the CTE...

    Are you sure it's not just the beans and meth ? They are an explosive combination in some people.

    FRANKS AND BEANS!!!!!

    Just don't touch the guy's ears, he's killed for less.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Midnite_Train said:
    Watch the you tube video on the culture Meyer created at Florida before left, there’s some pretty sick stuff.

    For example he berated one kid endlessly in the weight room until the kids thigh muscles blew out or something. Meyer is not a good guy

    I know he's sick, but is he SICK or just a sick bastard ?

  • levanderlevander Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:
    Some times it's hard to open up to other possibilities when I've held certain opinions as fact.

    LOL @ sometimes.

    But I guess this is WC making at least some kind of effort...

    Good for you, WC.

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg wrong about something? H e l l has indeed frozen over

  • dawgferlyfesauntdawgferlyfesaunt Posts: 5 ✭✭ Sophomore

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:
    This thread done gave me the CTE...

    Are you sure it's not just the beans and meth ? They are an explosive combination in some people.

    That was funny right there!

    (I hate beans though)

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Interesting take. I’d be more inclined to agree if urban didn’t have an extensive history of being a P(ile)OS

    There’s a great podcast series out now about Aaron Hernandez where Urban appears...he does not come off well

  • CatfishCatfish Posts: 447 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Perish the thought.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawgferlyfesaunt said:
    This thread done gave me the CTE...

    Are you sure it's not just the beans and meth ? They are an explosive combination in some people.

    That was funny right there!

    (I hate beans though)

    I love beans, but they don't love me, unless a loud fart translates to 'I love you' in bean speak.

  • AndersonDawgAndersonDawg Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @WCDawg said:
    Some times it's hard to open up to other possibilities when I've held certain opinions as fact.
    After reading about Aaron Hernandez's advanced CTE and his hidden gay life style which may have led to a perceived threat of being exposed by the man he murdered my little internal voice has slowly been working on my conscious. The news that Meyer might also suffer from brain abnormalities set the little voice into even more action. What if Meyer knew about Hernandez's sexuality and mental struggles and he genuinely wanted to help him ? What if he wrong headedly, perhaps because of his own hidden struggles, sympathized with an assistant who had impulse control issues ?

    In the interest of communicating, I suspect if my brain is ever put under a microscope, CTE or something like it will be found. I don't know the answers, but I'm now open to the questions.

    Urban Liar is the poster boy for narcissism. He could give a rat’s rear end about his coaches, players, fans, etc. He only cares about UL. I hope we play OSU in the playoffs and beat them worse (33-0) than Clemson did a few years ago. That said, I wouldn’t mind if Nebraska upset them today.

  • dawgindawgin Posts: 11 ✭ Freshman
    edited November 7

    Meyers is a scumbag and hope the imaginary brain cyst causes untold harm to him. Anyone remember the scumbag pulling timeouts few seconds left in the Georgia game after the blowout? I really do hope he dies and his family suffers. This gator scumbag did negative recruiting like no other. Let’s not even discuss his history of abuse and sick culture he created at UF.

  • dawgindawgin Posts: 11 ✭ Freshman

    @WCDawg said:

    @Midnite_Train said:
    Watch the you tube video on the culture Meyer created at Florida before left, there’s some pretty sick stuff.

    For example he berated one kid endlessly in the weight room until the kids thigh muscles blew out or something. Meyer is not a good guy

    I know he's sick, but is he SICK or just a sick bastard ?

    He's a sick bastard. He's getting what he deserves.

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 1,965 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dawgin said:
    Meyers is a scumbag and hope the imaginary brain cyst causes untold harm to him. Anyone remember the scumbag pulling timeouts few seconds left in the Georgia game after the blowout? I really do hope he dies and his family suffers. This gator scumbag did negative recruiting like no other. Let’s not even discuss his history of abuse and sick culture he created at UF.

    Woah woah woah dawgin bro. Death and harm to his family over a timeout... seems extreme

  • donmdonm Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited November 7

    @JRT812 said:

    @dawgin said:
    Meyers is a scumbag and hope the imaginary brain cyst causes untold harm to him. Anyone remember the scumbag pulling timeouts few seconds left in the Georgia game after the blowout? I really do hope he dies and his family suffers. This gator scumbag did negative recruiting like no other. Let’s not even discuss his history of abuse and sick culture he created at UF.

    Woah woah woah dawgin bro. Death and harm to his family over a timeout... seems extreme

    I concur. Way over the top. I'm fine with him losing to Michigan and not making it to the FCP. The rest, not so much.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 395 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

  • RxDawgRxDawg Posts: 226 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:

    @Midnite_Train said:
    Watch the you tube video on the culture Meyer created at Florida before left, there’s some pretty sick stuff.

    For example he berated one kid endlessly in the weight room until the kids thigh muscles blew out or something. Meyer is not a good guy

    I know he's sick, but is he SICK or just a sick bastard ?

    Holy smokes... could you imagine if there was a video out there like this about Kirby? Or Richt when he was coaching? And just having that kind of guy running your program... That'd be a hard pill to swallow even with the W's.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RxDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Midnite_Train said:
    Watch the you tube video on the culture Meyer created at Florida before left, there’s some pretty sick stuff.

    For example he berated one kid endlessly in the weight room until the kids thigh muscles blew out or something. Meyer is not a good guy

    I know he's sick, but is he SICK or just a sick bastard ?

    Holy smokes... could you imagine if there was a video out there like this about Kirby? Or Richt when he was coaching? And just having that kind of guy running your program... That'd be a hard pill to swallow even with the W's.

    I'm blessed and cursed with having a compulsion to speak my mind. I have no doubt I'd piss off a lot of rose colored glasses type UGA fans if we had that in our program.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited November 7

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 395 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

    Maybe not, but almost every other way possible to bring attention to your brain's abnormalities would've been better. If he was cognizant enough to write the letter why was he not cognizant enough to seek help before murdering innocent people? You feel sorry for him, I'll feel sorry for the actual victims.

  • ghostofuga1ghostofuga1 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @GrayDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

    Maybe not, but almost every other way possible to bring attention to your brain's abnormalities would've been better. _ If he was cognizant enough to write the letter why was he not cognizant enough to seek help before murdering innocent people? _ You feel sorry for him, I'll feel sorry for the actual victims.

    Or stick the gun in his mouth and pull the trigger prior to killing others.....

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @GrayDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

    Maybe not, but almost every other way possible to bring attention to your brain's abnormalities would've been better. If he was cognizant enough to write the letter why was he not cognizant enough to seek help before murdering innocent people? You feel sorry for him, I'll feel sorry for the actual victims.

    He didn't commit the shootings to bring attention to his condition, at least not in a way you're likely thinking. The violent compulsions were not driven by a desire for fame or as a tool to make a point about mental health. The tumor caused rage, he just recognized there was something in his brain causing his condition.
    No doubt anything, even suicide would have been a better outcome, but obviously insanity, regardless of the cause, doesn't always lead to sane choices.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 7,685 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @ghostofuga1 said:

    @GrayDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

    Maybe not, but almost every other way possible to bring attention to your brain's abnormalities would've been better. _ If he was cognizant enough to write the letter why was he not cognizant enough to seek help before murdering innocent people? _ You feel sorry for him, I'll feel sorry for the actual victims.

    Or stick the gun in his mouth and pull the trigger prior to killing others.....

    Well....da.
    Where does this mass cultural swagger get us ? We have this old west mentality that values macho over clinical solutions. Violence begets violence. As long as we see guns as the solution, guns will be the problem.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 395 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @GrayDawg said:
    Brain abnormalities or not, the victims left in his wake should not be forgotten.

    I get that, it does matter to me whether a person is mentally ill or has organic issues though.

    The University Of Texas Tower shooter Charles Whitman in 1966 was a Marine vet sharpshooter who had been a model citizen till he became erratic in the 2 years leading up to then . He climbed to the top of the school clock tower after murdering his wife, his mother and his dog the night before, then he murdered 16 strangers and wounded 31 more with a rifle.

    He left a note asking that his brain be examined after his death. A large tumor was found pressing on his brain during the autopsy. I don't think it was a coincidence.

    Maybe not, but almost every other way possible to bring attention to your brain's abnormalities would've been better. If he was cognizant enough to write the letter why was he not cognizant enough to seek help before murdering innocent people? You feel sorry for him, I'll feel sorry for the actual victims.

    He didn't commit the shootings to bring attention to his condition, at least not in a way you're likely thinking. The violent compulsions were not driven by a desire for fame or as a tool to make a point about mental health. The tumor caused rage, he just recognized there was something in his brain causing his condition.
    No doubt anything, even suicide would have been a better outcome, but obviously insanity, regardless of the cause, doesn't always lead to sane choices.

    Clearly.

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