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It’s not perfect but its close enough. Certainly better than the old days where teams were obligated to certain bowl games and you’d have something like the B12 Champ ranked #1 in the polls playing the P-10 champion ranked at #7 for the national championship. Remember 1984? BYU was undefeated and won the NC by beating an unranked 6-5 Michigan in the Holiday Bowl. Seriously? They were in the WAC and their big win was against Pitt. I am perfectly fine with the current playoff system.
Good point on ucf. Why rank them if they have no chance of making the NC
Because they get publicity and a good reputation, which increases recruit interest. They start recruiting better players and coaches and slowly build a consistent winning team. Next thing you know you get an invite to a P5 conference. Now you are a contender.
I dont’ think anyone seriously believes UCF would have had a chance in hell against any of the playoff teams.
Yeah, Auburn crapped the bed against UCF. They win that game 9 times out of 10.
No deserving team has been left out--that is a subjective statement. Tell it to the fans and media who have been in vocal disagreement. The selection process itself is subjective. The "eye test" is one of the criteria the committee uses to determine who is "worthy". Strength of schedule also has an element of subjectivity. Alabama had a very weak SOS last year. A lot of opinion goes into all of it.
8 teams would be an advantage for UGA for two reasons:
Less chance of being left out if we don't win the SEC championship (the season wouldn't hinge on one game).
Our depth is superior to most teams which would pay off in the latter rounds.
Name a team that should've been in, and we can then start this debate.
It doesn't matter--it's majority opinion. SOS can be debated. Comparison of Head to head matchups can be debated. The quality of wins/losses can be debated. If you use a computer program as has been done in the past for the BCS--the criteria for assessment can be debated. Set down firm criteria that can be quantified by objective, indisputable data--there will be no reason for debate.
If the system is flawed then you need to be able to point to specific examples to where it’s been wrong.
There needs to be an 8 team playoff imo
Human nature. Everyone thinks THEY know best or what's right.
Would need to expand scholarship #s drastically.
I actually liked BCS program model to determine rankings. I wonder who the top 4 in would have been last year if bcs still around?
@Teddy I just did. Argue that a team is "worthy" until you are blue in the face. If the argument is subjective--you simply can't prove it.
For academic exercise see this article--https://usat.ly/2zJ6jP8
ESPN is driving all this expanded playoff nonsense because they make so much money off the play offs. And too many people believe it because they saw it on TV.
If you expand it to ‘6 teams, team 7 and 8 are going to **** they didn’t get in. If you expense it to 8 teams, teams 9 and 10 are going to **** they didn’t get in. There is no magic number of teams to let in.
The game’s already too centralized with fewer teams winning the national championship . The game was more fun when more often some random team would have a really good year and swoop in and win it all.
ESPN will make money no matter what format is used. They built that network on polls and bowls.
I've been a fan of a true playoff since Georgia won the conference (don't remember the year) and got leapfrogged in the polls. Auburn had a year where something similar happened. The only way to end all debate about who's in is an FBS conference champion playoff system. Win and you're in.
There are problems with any system. It will always be a matter of taste on which poison you choose. If you want to argue that "fan-atics" shouldn't be so rabid for their team to be national champs and accept the will of the majority of biased voters, that's OK. I don't think, in the end, any system will stop all debate.
ESPN makes more money with more playoff games. If you’ve ever been involved with companies who have public ownership, driving EPS up an extra nickel is what those executives live for. There is no being happy with what we already got.
I guess today that is true. At this point, they will never go back to the old system. The genie is out of the bottle. Frankly, from a broader societal benefit point of view, it wouldn't be bad if college presidents said, "no more national championships will be recognized" opting for education supporting football, rather than the other way around.
Here’s a video I watched awhile back that should help you guys who want playoff expansion understand what you are pushing for.
One thing Saban doesn’t say is it not only affects players sitting out bowl games. But it also affects which schools recruits are willing to consider.
https://youtu.be/nTubMhVKDvI
And we will never know
Easy. 8 teams, 5 conference champions plus 3 wildcards. Have a crew pick the 3 wildcards similar to what it is now.
That said, it probably wont change the final result much.
I've always said it should be 8 teams. Buy I've also always said it should NEVER go over 8.