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Of course it does. NY looks at what CA does and says “hold my beer.” Of course college football in NY has been a joke for decades.
Ultimately, you’re correct- this will become a federal issue, whether through the court system or via Congressional action.
Thanks for all for the feedback. Some good discussion and that is way I love the forum.
I had typed a way too long post for this and deleted. I will just say this, if you had told me 20 years ago I would have so little interest in baseball and NASCAR as I do today, I would have never believed it.
That's the best post I've seen on it yet. Well said.
My only caveat is I do think what's best for the sport is important to consider. The only reason these players can sell autographs is because of the health of the sport. People are taking it for granted that it will always be about as popular as the NFL is (roughly, i have no numbers, maybe the NFL is way more popular, i dunno). It does seem absurd to not allow the players to make money off their name. Right or wrong, they made this rule to curb abuse for the health of the sport.
The idea behind that is winning and having a successful program will bring in more support and more revenue. So having a program with a revenue of 150 million a year spending 2-3% of that on the man in charge of it doesn't seem that far fetched.
Baseball has a minor league system though. Football does not. Part of the argument some in favor of paying players are making is that there is no good alternative for football. The NFL won't take em so they have to play college football. That's hardly college football's fault, but since it's massively successful it has a massive target on it. So in essence, college football should be forced into serving the minor league role according to some.
The NCAA's time may be past due. Schools can come up with their own organization and their own rules with, hopefully. a lot less hypocrisy than the current group of administrators and their outdated amateur model.
Truth, You are correct there is no reward for players by playing college football except love of the game and NFL exposure. That is assuming they have no interest in getting a free degree. The degree it is the number one asset for most of us to obtain a much higher income over our lifetime. For most higher paying jobs its the minimum entry level requirement. With the NFL being a huge long shot for 99% of college players why would anyone not in the 1% want to waste time in college assuming they are not interested in a free degree. They could be out there working and earning money and not getting injured.
Kirby's collarbone, neck, back acl or mcl have already been risked. He has worked his way up the ladder to where he is today. And he did it without getting paid and now he's being rewarded for the hard work. I have no idea how this paying players is going to work. There are always unintended consequences and I can't wrap my mind about what all they will be.
The NF L makes plenty of money. Let them fund a minor league or developmental league or whatever. Of course, that might ruin the college game we love so much.
@bnadawg New York proposing 50% of their colleges' revenue gets paid to the athletes.
That's pretty funny. New York, a bastion of elite football programs. In division1, they have three FBS programs: Army, Buffalo, and mighty Syracuse who lost to Md 63-20. And Md lost to Penn State 59-0.
And ten programs (in Div 1) don't even have a football program. 50% of nothing equals nothing.
I think this entire concept is crazy.
They are not employees. they are students.
Do students get paid for doing well on tests, or in their fields, then after college and boosting the schools stats on success? We have the best vet school int he country...why because the students kick butt at research. How about performances from music students? costs money to attend a choir or orchestra performance...do they pay the students for their hard work practice and shows? nope they dont.
A scholarship in football is free education, free housing, free transportation, free food, the best healthcare in the country (I can promise you, that most of you could not afford the health care these players get), free dietitians and trainers, training, equipment, gym membership, tutoring, etc. Just because education isn't what it used to be, they are still getting a completely silver plattered education experience for their efforts.
Also...which players will actually benefit from this? (has anyone thought of this?). Some of you act like this will benefit little timmy with a poor family on the practice squad. The only players that will earn any significant income from their likeness are...wait for it...the ones who will most likely get drafted and play in the NFL. So we are arguing to allow them to get paid 3 years before they get paid big bucks...its ridiculous.
I can guarantee the players, not going pro, won't be the ones making money off of likeness.
What will this do to the locker room dynamics and already big headed peacocks around college football?... hmm
Brings us back to an even distribution of income to all the players.... so they're employees now? W2's and filling taxes? And star studded peacock goes around every payday saying "you owe me chumps" around the locker room... haha
IDK guys, I just don't like this can of worms. I can see a player caught in a lawsuit over copyright because ESPN used a photo of them for some random article without their permission or something similar...etc etc.
Whats the harm in making them wait 3 years to go pro?
Leave my college football alone.
RedDawg, I do not know if it will be good or bad. Because you brought it up If you are at Georgia on a music scholarship. Georgia does not pay you but You can be a part of a band and get paid for playing the same for art or acting. It is the same for English if you write a book it is yours to copyright. Only the real good musicians, artist actors and writers will be successful. If you are doing research in any field and come up with a new patent you will get part of the royalties. It is my understanding that the new law will allow say Fromm to do a add for his dads insurance agency and get paid for it. While I am somewhat worried about abuse and readily admit the chance for abuse. The Georgia football program makes millions of dollars a year over expenses and if a small portion went to football players,especially all the non NFL prospects it would not bother me.
In my mind the real abuse is all the players that do not receive a education or a degree and are just dumped on the street when their eligibility is up. If I could make a change it would be that your scholarship is good until you receive a degree.
My problem with it is this. Recruiting for small market schools will suffer. Big name recruits that have a chance of actually making money on the side will go to schools that are popular and in large markets. They'll make more money that way and thats what it will be all about. It won't hurt Georgia, but teams like Iowa, Kansas St... Etc have no shot.