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I think a lot of that has to do with how good we are at reporting. But like @AnotherDawg said, we also are a pretty big country with a lot of folks.
The Louisiana thing is really interesting to me. I wasn't aware they were having such a problem until last night. And they think it's because of the Mardi gras festivities that went on right before.
Another state that surprised me in their vast numbers is Washington. I know Seattle is pretty dense, but the rest of the state is pretty rural I thought.
The only thing I'd caution on that graph is that mortality is calculated on confirmed (tested) cases, whereas the actual # of those who've contracted the virus but have mild/no symptoms is likely a much higher number. I also have a very low confidence level in the reported # of cases in China (I personally believe this is significantly understated but have no evidence to substantiate).
Neither of these things detract from your ultimate message - we need to continue to take this seriously and wishing everyone to remain safe & healthy (100% agree).
India and Indonesia, two of the most populous nations in the world are virtually untouched according to WHO statistics. Curious. I think it's because they (and most 3rd world nations) really aren't equipped to manage and report on specific diseases. Same with Africa being largely untouched according to WHO data. COVID is just another disease. Add it to the pile of other deadly things they deal with daily. Seriously, TB still kills 4,000 people every day in many parts of the world and the Swine Flu is absolutely on a tear worldwide right now. This Corona virus is nothing by comparison.
And if anyone believes the official data points from China...well I don't now what to say. Take their numbers and multiply by about 10 and yo might get close.
How would Mardi Gras effect the mortality rate?
Oh I misread, I was just talking about the infection rate. But LA hospitals are overwhelmed, leading to some not being treated, so that would increase the deaths.
LA has about 2000 known cases in the whole state. How are they overwhelmed?
This is why I think the CDC needs to report number of hospitalizations. Number of positives is really meaningless. That's just a reflection of how many are being tested. Test more people, you will likely get more positives. Running out of hospital beds is the real concern. So. how many Americans are hospitalized? And what about those people who had it already, but are over it? Their numbers are included in the data. Kind of creates a false inflation of numbers.
To your point on testing more cases, @pgjackson - I read this article on why Germany’s mortality rate is linked to how it handled testing (didn’t limit to severe cases as many countries have).
Germany’s COVID mortality rate is currently .6 %
I know the Germans opened a couple drive thru testing locations in my local area last week. Not sure how well it worked or how many people went but it was obvious that they were trying to get as many tested as possible. Luckily the German State I live in has the lowest number of cases in the country. I still have not heard of anyone that has tested positive (as in they actually know the person) from anyone that I speak to.
Connecticut opened a drive thru testing center in the hardest hit part of the state. However, that area has a lot of wealthy people and they complained too many sick people would be close to their neighborhoods and had it shut down.
Example 5,872,109 why people are the worst (!)
Good grief.
I was just confirming that it seemed to me as if they were actually trying to test as many as possible.
Its hard to understand the decision made in Connecticut but I don't want to go down the road of questioning govt actions on a UGA fan page. It only leads to pointless internet fighting.
Here's a really good graph looking at cases in the world per capita, which is a better way to look at it than total numbers. The US is not even close to being #1 on a per capita basis and I hope it stays that way.
I looked into responses by other countries and I found this article about Spain. https://timmermanreport.com/2020/03/what-not-to-do-lessons-from-spains-cavalier-response-to-covid-19/
Swtizerland and Austria had cavalier responses to Covid-19 and kept their ski resorts open even after there were confirmed transmissions there.
But back to Spain. Spain has a leftist government and responded poorly to Covid-19. Italy has a rightist government that responded poorly. Iceland has a leftist government that is responding well. India has a conservative government that is responding well. In other words, fighting Covid-19 has very little to do with ideology and a lot to do with competency.
I also note that most of the countries with high case rates are developed countries. I think that is because there is more travel and transmission. Covid-19 unfortunately will reach all places and is hitting Africa now. I think once it really hits in full force, it will be devastating there unless African countries can use lessons learned from India, Iceland and other countries, particilarly India as the strategies in place there could be done in Africa more than the universal testing in Iceland.