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No stats just real life observations... A black man is more likely to face police brutality than a cop to face a random black man assaulting him. 🤔🙃
With respect, if you don’t think black and brown people are treated and policed differently in this country, you are either completely oblivious or simply don’t care. Maybe you don’t interact with many who are black or brown, and in that case ignorance is what it is. Kinda hard to be involved in sports and not have relationships with black and brown people though...I’d imagine most on this site are involved with sports though.
Further, trained professionals should act like trained professionals, especially in high pressure situations. There’s rules of engagement within our military. Not obeying those rules is considered a war crime, right? Shouldn’t there be an equally high standard for the those we depend on to protect all citizens? Shouldn’t the justice system unilaterally levy penalties on breaking the rules?
Ive always found in my interactions with youth that they tell it how it is; they don’t describe situations on how they’d like it to be. It’s refreshing the brutal honesty children provide. When 6-8 year old black boys at the boys and girl clubs are afraid of police, we are failing as society.
I don’t understand how we can embrace and celebrate each and every recruit annually, 90% of them being black, for the purposes of our entertainment, then turn around and dismiss the real **** they deal with daily...seems morally piss poor to me.
I agree one of the major issues at hand would be training. The most jarring thing to me about the whole George Floyd situation wasn't that the officer on his neck was not trained to do that. It was that the other officers around him failed to identify the issue and correct it. That to me screams lack of training from the leadership level down. However, if you are comparing military to police it is apples to oranges. Not only do military personnel go through a lot more training, they also fall under the UCMJ. Grunts/Military police themselves go through years of training throughout their career and the training itself is a lot more intense. This is probably why they are better under pressure.
Thank You!!! This is really appreciated.
A friend of mines said, "Theyre giving us so much sh!t for asking for equality, Imagine if we wanted revenge!" That struck me because its sadly true.
So from my personal experience, at one time a bank manager, first management job id add, I worked in Riviera Beach, FL. Riv has great people living there, but it’s the “hood” of Palm Beach. To ensure our employees felt safe, we used a police detail at all times. All of them former military, most of them this was their first job post military. Because of that, I think there’s a lot of parallels that exist.
Many of these cops we’re younger than 30, most didn’t look like the community in which they were policing. Interacting with families like the Elams, who are community leaders within Riviera, positively changed the perception of many of these officers based on convos I had with them.
I don’t think the military and police is a far fetched parallel.
Well, hopefully you can continue to communicate there’s no revenge to be had. Killing today doesn’t erase history. How do you quantify how many should be killed? Who do you target? It’s just a foolish strategy although it’s happening. Truly a battle that can’t be won.
That said, no great movement in this country has happened without great violence. So hopefully this can be used as a catalyst to be the spark that promotes much needed change. Different topic that hopefully we can have a convo over a brew one day.
In the area I live in (the upper midwest) the darker skinned population is very minimal.
There was one black family in my hometown of about 1000 people while I was growing up and I happen to be friends with some of they younger children of the family until they moved away. I have seen straight up racism one time in my life. I was in the navy at the time and one of the members of my division happened to be a black guy. The Master Chief in charge of our division routinely punished him for things that he didn't punish other guys for and the punishments for that guy were generally more severe than punishment white guys received. Until the end of my time there it didn't dawn on me what was actually happening I am ashamed to say and I never spoke out about it. The only thing I can say in my defense in that instance is that I was young and just trying to make my way through my own troubles and couldn't see anyone elses. I will also say Bill ( the black man) was vocal at least back then that racism was overblown. I don't know what he would say today. I might have to ask him. He has been one of the few I've maintained contact with since leaving the military.
I think having open honest conversations with people outside your bubble (not the correct word, but I can't think of the correct one) is difficult and as others have said is one of the biggest reasons we are all in this situation.
I mean from everything thebmedoa portrays it hasnt been peaceful but as a nurse Ive been at the protest in Dallas and the main aggressors where non-POC and police.
Being truthful the question was formed as a rhetorical. Similar to a Jane Elliot discussion...
Let's keep this on-topic of making Dabo look bad. 😂 Thank you
Dabo is a fake and a phony and I’ll be happy when everyone sees that. Nick Saban is an asshole and I’m cool with it. Dabo Swinney is a fake nice guy and I’m not cool with it. Anyone who says dagnabbit and gosh darn and idioms such as that is as fake as a $3 bill.
I'm glad you brought up the word perception there. The idea the the military and the police are similar in any regard needs to be altered. The difference in training, rules of engagement, and areas are responsibility are vastly different and their job performance/perception should be different as well. The problem is that the perception of police being militarized is horrible for community oriented policing which is the ultimate goal. This perception needs to be changed by the actions policing leadership at the highest level. They need updated training that shouldn't be similar to the military at all. There will be certain units like SWAT that will have military style tactics and weapons for specific purposes but the mindset will and should be different.
Dagnabbit!! I disagree with the gosh darn fake comparison. My grandmother would have laughed in your face, put her cigarette out in your grits and taken your $3 bill lunch money away from you.
I work with young people.
I do not curse, and I guess I use idioms...
I know a lot of good people who use them, and do not curse.
Pretty sure they are not fake.
Cursing does not make you "a real man," ""authentic," or "100%."
I don't judge adults, when talking to adults, using whatever at their disposal to communicate. I don't have a problem with it most of the time. But, I don't find my ability to communicate lessened because my vocabulary doesn't include certain words.
I really dislike Clemson. They were my ORIGINAL hated team (my young sports fandom was born out of them "taking" our championship from us in '81).
But a former player of mine is good friend with Dabo's son. He has spent a lot of non-football time over there. Dabo's pretty authentic. You can dislike who you see - perfectly understandable - but a lack of authenticity doesn't seem to be the problem...
And, again... I hate orange. Just really think it's an awful color.