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They never said that but we know that's never stopped you before.
Not sure how economic shutdown causes more pneumonia deaths.
You were saying?...
Heart disease kills way more people than pneumonia. I'm sure you understand the causal link with stress?
I'm not saying more or less, but people have and will continue to die as result of the non-viral impact of the covid.
Dr. Timothy Russell, a mathematical epidemiologist who has been picking apart the Covid19 numbers since the infamous Diamond Princess cruise line, has extensively explored the question of "how can we estimate how many people have been exposed and never even knew it?" His research suggests that the April/ May multiplier would have been much higher than 10x and that the number of exposed Americans is approaching 10%. The significance of his ongoing research is that, if accurate, the spread rate is higher than we realized, a VAST majority of people who contract the virus have no idea (which is probably why the spread rate is high), and the IFR is around 0.1%. This has been independently corroborated by others including a recently published study from Wake Forest.
There are some good arguments on both sides of this.... long run deaths increase, but short term deaths drop during a recession. Policy responses post-recession could play a role in decreasing/increasing long run deaths.
This article cites a pretty good range of research on deaths and economic downturns:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00210-0
Two different looks. You might say that's kind of a micro-macro thing. One looked at long-term while the other explored more " acute toxicity" during the actual downturns.
I find it interesting that the planet tends to even out deaths, even when there are natural disasters. Look at the time period immediately after the Indonesian Tsunami.
What you're saying correlates directly to the controversial article I posted the other day. To rehash, the author suggested decision makers are primarily focusing on the # of confirmed cases, rather than # of hospitalizations, # admitted to ICU and mortality rate. In his opinion, based on the last three measurements it's more prudent to take a targeted approach to containment versus a one size fits all blanket.
I encourage everyone to read how Japan contained C-19. It was a successful targeted approach, loaded with common sense and adherence by a vigilant population.
So you lie about the effectiveness of wearing a mask so hospital workers will be able to get masks because of the influx of patients coming in to hospitals because they aren't wearing masks.? Since if everyone wears masks now the virus will go away, maybe they should have told everyone to wear masks back then and the hospitals wouldn't have been full so the workers won't run out of masks.
" An experiment using high-speed video found that hundreds of droplets ranging from 20 to 500 micrometers were generated when saying a simple phrase, but that nearly all these droplets were blocked when the mouth was covered by a damp washcloth."
Make sure to have a spray bottle with you at all times, so you can dampen your face mask. "Meh science, meh science, meh science!"
I saw an article today saying there could be 30% more fatalities from COVID due to lack of testing but they never mention that the survivability rate could be that much higher if not higher as well.
My info isn’t based off of “reading something” in regards to young patients. I’m going off direct info from workers there.
That doesn't change the fact you are talking about statistical outliers. It happens with influenza, too. Sometimes 18 year olds wind up in the hospital with pneumonia because of allergies to pollen. Florida doesn't give out as much info as Georgia, but the number of 18-21 year olds who have died in Georgia is ZERO.
Clearly cases are rising......
Is it true......when you factor in all ages.... if someone gets Covid 19.... chances of surviving are 97.5%......give or take a little?
But under 50 the odds of surviving are probably closer to 99.9%?
No one wants loss of life. No one.
Simple question.......is it worth saving a few thousand lives but possibly/likely destroying 10s of millions of lives?
That's essentially what we are talking about. Regardless of what everyone's different research says......isn't really that simple?