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The mask has become a dividing line of defiance against tyranny. Not wearing one is social protest--at least that is what my experience has been in the NE. As I've complained since March when we locked it all down...mandatory, enforceable mask wearing and social distancing indoors is all we need to do to protect people and our economy. Target aid to the entertainment and hospitality industries who are most impacted by the precautions. We don't need months on end of "sheltering in place."
How many parents/grandparents of 18-21 have died after getting the virus from their bar hopping children/grandchildren? YOU CAN'T RESTRICT THE VIRUS TO ONE AGE GROUP!
Have you considered telling your children/grandchildren not to visit for a while, that you can do a zoom video call?
They say not wearing a mask is selfish. So is wanting everyone to be shutdown instead of just those vulnerable.
Sure, I realize that some grandparents live with younger folks, but those families can also control their own behavior.
My example is to point out that you blindly sought out a university study and didn't bother to fully question it. Had I posted such an article I would have footnoted that ridiculous experiment. How many more examples must I show you before you get the general concept that relying solely on science with respect to C-19 is a fools errand? "Meh science, meh science!"
FWIW they haven't. But what are the chances that these 18-21 year olds have not come into contact with anyone 55+. ZERO. Many of the younger group work in LTC facilities, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants etc and will spread to other people if they become infected; that's indisputable.
I absolutely agree that the economy will not be completely back while there are still deaths. But the economy will be open.
Retailers won't be fully staffed... but they'll be staffed.
Entertainment places won't be fully staffed....but they'll be staffed.
Ballparks won't be full.....but some vendors will be open.
More people can pay rent or pay mortgages.
More property owners and landlords can get paid.
I can go on and on.
Yes.....lives will be lost. That is extremely upsetting. Heck......maybe I get it and die.
This isn't that unlike WW II. Thousands of lost lives to save millions.
I appreciate that many of you are very concerned with saving every life....who wouldn't be. I'm extremely PRO LIFE.
But America has to be productive to survive.
Those that feel there is a security blanket for them....either from the govt or a family member....are more inclined to shutting it down and letting it pass.
Those of us that are the security blanket.....supporting family and paying an unjust amount to support the govt through taxes.....understand that the country has to get back to work......the entire country.
If you don't see this... .you don't see this....and probably never will.
90000 deaths (doubt that is likely but you know the numbers better than me) would be awful.
But there are 340,000,000 million (probably a lot more considering illegals) people. Say that slowly......3. 4. 0 ...000,000 million. And all need money, food, shelter, health care, etc...
Shutting down any portion of the economy won't work.
I honestly can't underhow
In the study they note it was slightly damp. That doesn't mean they are spraying it with a squirt bottle and making it wet. They were replicating conditions similar to exhaled moisture that accumulates in a mask to make the experiment as accurate as possible.
Come up with a better straw man next time. This is starting to get embarrassing.
Guys just relax...central planners have a great track record of success. I’m going back out in the fields, today could be the day I get sheered. BAAAAA
You ok @texdawg? Your last sentence had a "Castle of Aaargh" feel to it! 😄
Yea.
I guess I was trying to say that I can't understand how more people on Dawgnation don't see this.
But I know we are all different.
Do yourself a favor and stop posting academic research that's got more holes than Swiss Cheese.
Many of you keep arguing about studies. There is a counter study to every study. This researcher says this.....this researcher says that.
Everyone one of you can find a study to support your belief. Every single one of you.
Let's go real world.
1. Without business and vacation travel....hotel taxes, airport taxes, etc......how are municipalities going to pay for first responders? It's already happening to many cities. DC? They didn't have the money for the first checks they wrote. And who was really helped by that first stimulus?
2. How are school districts going to pay for teachers?
3. Cancel HS football. It's not essential. Really? How many millions of jobs are created because of high school football and other sports.
4. College football......even more lives destroyed.
5. We can go on and on.
Leaders around the country are making decisions based on fear...... and it's destroying our country.
I hear that the problem is the damage has already been done. so how are we going to fix this? I was out of work for 2 1/2 months, unemployment came through but now that I’m back at work my pay got cut in half literally. it’s to the point where my overhead expenses are way more than what I’m earning.
At least he offered something better than USAToday.
I hate that and sorry to hear that for you and your family.
The way out of it is to work... not you. You already are working.. but everyone else needs to work.
The hotdog vendor at Samford stadium, or the HS referee at a Valdosta HS game, or the helmet equipment salesman in south florida may not seem like much.....but all that is income earned....small or large......doesn't matter.....it's income spent on stuff.
The more people earning income the more money available to spread around.
Unemployment is a stop gap... nothing more.
Obviously your company needs more business....more income.....to pay employees and hire employees. They get that from a strong economy.
Impossible to have a strong economy if restaurants, bars, stadiums, theaters, beaches etc.....are closed or partly closed.
For this to work..... every part of the economy has to be open.
Obviously more people will get Covid... and unfortunately some will die.... and that sucks.
But have to protect the hundreds of millions of lives that will still be here long after the virus is gone.
That's not callousness or being cold..... that's ensuring that the population as a whole is able to survive.
Unfortunately there are many that don't see this. Even worse, there are many that see this and want this.....