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I've wondered. I think probably most were needed, if only because they want to monitor. I think if you report trouble breathing then they admit. Likely some of the older folks also live alone with nobody to check on them.
Than a tabloid who’s big thing is punny headlines? Absolutely
the times is biased no doubt. But they aren’t a tabloid.
if I’ve learned anything these last few days is this thread it’s that we believe what we want to be true, seek out sources to confirm this, then deny all bias and put it on those who might disagree with us.
we are all guilty of it, including myself
And Reason magazine
learned the last few days???
I keep waiting on you or one of the others to post a link to Salon.
Exhibit A- Florida fans.
Funny that you seem to know my politics. I've never once posted anything even remotely political here. And never will.
Agree.
I don't read the crap anymore. Like I said... everyone can find an article or study to fit what they want to believe.
What's the same for everyone..... or almost everyone? Mortgage or rent due.
Open everything up so it can be paid
Every reason you give is due to not having the virus under control. That's the point. Open anything and everything but nobody is buying. Miami survives on tourism but who is going to go there? Europe is big for tourists coming to Florida. They are going elsewhere, not because the bars are not open it's because the bars are open and cases are astronomical. Who is going to visit until the threat declines? Remember I was going to go to Tampa this past weekend. The hotel was open, the Casino was open the hotel sports bar was open but I cancelled because the infection level was too high. I am not saying close everything to save me, I am saying close high risk businesses for a few weeks to save the economy. We are hoping to reschedule the mini break in a months time but I am sure I am not alone in thinking I am not going to spend my money on visiting a "war zone".
We cruise about 3 times a year but we will only go when it is less risky (not risk free). if they offered a free cruise tomorrow we would not go. Opening everything = long term economic disaster not sustainable growth. The more you try to go back to (old) normal the longer the economic suffering will continue. Look at Europe, they now have less than half the cases as Florida with 440 million people. What makes you think they are coming here?
Bars in Florida are closed as of last week. Hotel bars and casinos might get away with it but normal bars and clubs are closed. We are back in time out.
Luckily, when paper goes through a special printer it turns into money! Free money for everyone! YAY!
Good points. I just don't agree.
I have no problem with your stats or the articles that you and @YaleDawg are posting. I quite frankly believe they are probably accurate.....or at least for the most part.
I understand there will be casualties from opening everything up.
I also realize that you and your wife will probably not travel and probably shouldn't travel. And your demographic is who actually has real money in in this country. My parents are 73 and love to travel. They are still choosing to travel where they can, play golf and enjoy restaurants. They don't want to spend what time they may have locked up. Different strokes for different folks.
But the death rate for this disease is ridiculously low. But as long as the media keeps reporting it the way that they do.... many people will still live in fear.
College football player tests positive.. big deal. High school football player tests positive.....big deal.
But like I said earlier......media won't keep reporting misleading and fearful information for much longer... many will be out of a job.
The country simply can't survive any longer without everything opened up.
Those people that actually create jobs and run businesses know this. Researchers, academia, professors live in a fantasy world.
But one thing I've definitely learned from today......no one on this forum will change their mind......and we'll soon realize the consequences.
By the way......if its open.....enough people will buy. Take a look at Home Depot, Lowes and Walmart numbers over the past 4 months.
Feel for those families that are probably going to lose everything. Too bad officials don't deem their income essential.
Again I say...
What happens in February when there is no vaccine and we aren't close?
What do we open then?
There HAS to be a breaking point for EVERYONE.
What is yours? Mine is fall sports - play regardless, even if you limit fans. And act responsible everywhere (masks, space, etc).
But for others, it's still "let's wait it out, wear masks, stay ???% closed, keep kids at home..."
Seriously, at what date do we move on?