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Do yourself a favor and stop posting academic research that's got more holes than Swiss Cheese.
Many of you keep arguing about studies. There is a counter study to every study. This researcher says this.....this researcher says that.
Everyone one of you can find a study to support your belief. Every single one of you.
Let's go real world.
1. Without business and vacation travel....hotel taxes, airport taxes, etc......how are municipalities going to pay for first responders? It's already happening to many cities. DC? They didn't have the money for the first checks they wrote. And who was really helped by that first stimulus?
2. How are school districts going to pay for teachers?
3. Cancel HS football. It's not essential. Really? How many millions of jobs are created because of high school football and other sports.
4. College football......even more lives destroyed.
5. We can go on and on.
Leaders around the country are making decisions based on fear...... and it's destroying our country.
I hear that the problem is the damage has already been done. so how are we going to fix this? I was out of work for 2 1/2 months, unemployment came through but now that I’m back at work my pay got cut in half literally. it’s to the point where my overhead expenses are way more than what I’m earning.
At least he offered something better than USAToday.
I hate that and sorry to hear that for you and your family.
The way out of it is to work... not you. You already are working.. but everyone else needs to work.
The hotdog vendor at Samford stadium, or the HS referee at a Valdosta HS game, or the helmet equipment salesman in south florida may not seem like much.....but all that is income earned....small or large......doesn't matter.....it's income spent on stuff.
The more people earning income the more money available to spread around.
Unemployment is a stop gap... nothing more.
Obviously your company needs more business....more income.....to pay employees and hire employees. They get that from a strong economy.
Impossible to have a strong economy if restaurants, bars, stadiums, theaters, beaches etc.....are closed or partly closed.
For this to work..... every part of the economy has to be open.
Obviously more people will get Covid... and unfortunately some will die.... and that sucks.
But have to protect the hundreds of millions of lives that will still be here long after the virus is gone.
That's not callousness or being cold..... that's ensuring that the population as a whole is able to survive.
Unfortunately there are many that don't see this. Even worse, there are many that see this and want this.....
Tex, you can't separate "science" from the discussion, because some are using/weaponizing it as an excuse to prevent economic re-engagement. I'm attempting to posit your same sentiment, namely that for every academic study on C-19, one can point to scientific pronouncements that have been miles off the mark.
Simply put, I share the same concerns you do, which is why I've said numerous times that the cure has and will be worse than the disease.
I don't think anyone including me is advocating a total shutdown for a long period. i do think that taking steps to minimize deaths is critical to restoring the best economy possible at this time. That would be a nationwide shut-down of Bars and indoor dining at restaurants, a shut-down of indoor movie theaters and any indoor events where distancing cannot be monitored. It would also include mandatory wearing of masks in indoor public places and selected outdoor places (parks, beaches etc, ) The reduction in virus spread and cases would boost the economy through consumer confidence more than enough to offset the losses in those areas that would be closed.
@texdawg problem is my job is based off tourism, and lots of it being international. I don’t see this turning around within a year at the least unless the whole globe is on the same page. Most of our business is from Europe, South America, etc.
Real world example - Air travel has not been closed or restricted so why is travel down 95%?
On the contrary, most of us are saying please wear masks and avoid large indoor gatherings so we can attempt to open things up without seeing a huge spike in cases. No one wants to have a prolonged shutdown.
Do you support having the Government replace the earnings of the businesses you close, perhaps based on last year's income?
Air travel is down because of fear plus no business travel.
Herman Cain has the covid and is in the hospital here in Atlanta.
Will be interesting to see how his condition progresses. I can't imagine some of the hateful things being said about this latest news on certain websites.
Florida displays what exponential growth looks like. Positive Rate increased almost 25% in 5 days (19.5% from 15.8%).
It doesn't matter whether you are not advocating a total shutdown.
Partial shut down does not work.
American Airlines, Delta and Southwest can't survive on a partial shutdown.
Just look at the Dawgnation members. @Mia_Dade06 can't survive on a partial shutdown...... @CaliforniaDawg can't survive on a partial shutdown......none of us can. They are just a couple of the real stories we have heard on here.
EVERYTHING has to be full go. Most Americans are month to month......heck . . Many are week to week. Guess what......so is our govt. Can't stop the machine for any amount of time.....
But one thing is for certain. ....the liberal media can't continue to push this garbage much longer.. ...they probably don't realize this.....but it's not long until they are out of work. Already hitting radio media pretty hard.
No advertising money......no media jobs. Wonder how many lives are affected without the NFL media money?
@Denmen185 I have zero argument with you that lives will be lost because of opening everything up.......but a partial opening harms more lives.
I've said this multiple times.......we are choosing to destroy our economy for something that may have 2.5% death rate. And for most of the population it's probably less than 1%.
Is that a lot of lives.. .....yes.....1 million, 2 million, more than that? Possibly.
But again......there will still be 340 million people that need to survive.
What's more callous? Saving a few thousand lives but destroying 10s of millions.
Denmen.....I absolutely understand why you are concerned. This disease is not very kind to your age bracket. And I speak from the heart when I say that I pray nothing happens to you or your wife.i want nothing more than to get back to talking football with you again.
But making policies that may help your age bracket survive this pandemic......but destroying the financial lives of millions......is simply idiocracy.
And it honestly pains me to say that.
Says the guy who used a New York post tabloid article 😂😂
Georgia New Case age distribution from yesterday (announced today)
This will be short of the full total because I didn't do under 4 year olds.
5-9 50 cases
10-17 258 cases 3 hospitalization, 0 deaths
18-29 1182 cases, 21 hospitalizations, 0 deaths
30-39 672 cases, 34 hospitalizations, 2 deaths
40-49 473 cases, 53 hospitalizations, 1 death
50-59 381 cases 47 hospitalizations, 2 deaths
60-69 245 cases, 30 hospitalizations, 3 deaths
70-79 97 cases, 17 hospitalizations, 3 deaths
80+ 42 cases, 20 hospitalizations, 11 deaths
Prayers especially for those in the older groups, especially the 80+'s. The ones in the hospital have a slightly less than fifty-fifty chance of going home. The 70's are about 40% mortality once hospitalized, and the 60's are just over 25% mortality when hospitalized.
Real world example back......because families don't have many places to travel for vacation because foreign countries will quarantine.....and because business are not having their salesman travel because of fear from backlash or because their just isn't enough business to support travel.
Texan can't travel to New York, Paris or even Mexico. Fly to California.....nothing open.....South Beach....nope. How about Hawaii? If you want to get arrested for leaving your Hotel.
So yes......there are reasons air travel is down.
Also from a business standpoint, most companies have halted travel(flying). The company I work for is also on a hiring freeze in order to halt movement.
Wonder how many of those hospitalizations were actually necessary. Obviously some...but hospitals aren't turning anybody away.
Would you prefer it had been from the New York Times? Are they more reputable? /s